Bryan Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 So I spent an age messing about with an image taken within a cathedral. Combined layers with different degrees of noise reduction etc. The result was OK, probably QC worthy, but not brilliant. Before uploading I checked to see what was available on Alamy. There were quite a few shots a bit like mine, but one outstanding effort - presumably the TOG had got access with a tripod to places where Joe Public was not allowed. I decided not to submit, but I'll keep it as I was amazed by the building. I guess that there would be a slim chance of my image being used if a hard pressed journo/editor only looked at the most recent shots, but, in reality, it would probably only damage my CTR. Difficult call..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I have pix of churches (they do sell... occasionally) under a separate pseudonym. No need to damage CTR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Yarvin Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Bryan, sometimes I learn as much from the ones that don't make it as from the ones that do. Every photo is a learning experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlessandraRC Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 MOST of my pictures don't make out of the memory card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Upload it and make sure you add really good keywords. Someone might just look for churches based on keywords - eg. vault, christianity that the other one doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 So I spent an age messing about with an image taken within a cathedral. Combined layers with different degrees of noise reduction etc. The result was OK, probably QC worthy, but not brilliant. Before uploading I checked to see what was available on Alamy. There were quite a few shots a bit like mine, but one outstanding effort - presumably the TOG had got access with a tripod to places where Joe Public was not allowed. I decided not to submit, but I'll keep it as I was amazed by the building. I guess that there would be a slim chance of my image being used if a hard pressed journo/editor only looked at the most recent shots, but, in reality, it would probably only damage my CTR. Difficult call..... I was pleasantly surprised to get a sale of the interior of a famous UK Cathedral a couple of months ago. Why they picked mine over the other competing images I'll never know, but I'll take the sale just the same. The image was taken handheld from just outside the "pay to enter" area and it took some effort in processing to improve lighting, composition and symmetry. Maybe they liked the rows of chairs that I included in the frame, and the lack of people, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 So I spent an age messing about with an image taken within a cathedral. Combined layers with different degrees of noise reduction etc. The result was OK, probably QC worthy, but not brilliant. Before uploading I checked to see what was available on Alamy. There were quite a few shots a bit like mine, but one outstanding effort - presumably the TOG had got access with a tripod to places where Joe Public was not allowed. I decided not to submit, but I'll keep it as I was amazed by the building. I guess that there would be a slim chance of my image being used if a hard pressed journo/editor only looked at the most recent shots, but, in reality, it would probably only damage my CTR. Difficult call..... I was pleasantly surprised to get a sale of the interior of a famous UK Cathedral a couple of months ago. Why they picked mine over the other competing images I'll never know, but I'll take the sale just the same. The image was taken handheld from just outside the "pay to enter" area and it took some effort in processing to improve lighting, composition and symmetry. Maybe they liked the rows of chairs that I included in the frame, and the lack of people, who knows? I've had similar experiences. It isn't always possible to predict what will appeal to buyers. The "perfect" images aren't always the ones they settle on -- i.e. there can be victory in defeat sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 Interesting responses folks. I don't use different pseudos at present, and not sure that I want to use that facility. Some wise words from Brian, you never stop learning. This was one a set of photos taken in Germany and I have just found out that they have pretty stringent privacy laws there. People photos need to have releases if they can be regarded as the main subject of the photo. Another one (Tour guide with party, generally a potential seller) down the drain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Interesting responses folks. I don't use different pseudos at present, and not sure that I want to use that facility. Some wise words from Brian, you never stop learning. This was one a set of photos taken in Germany and I have just found out that they have pretty stringent privacy laws there. People photos need to have releases if they can be regarded as the main subject of the photo. Another one (Tour guide with party, generally a potential seller) down the drain.... Wow! Releases needed even for editorial use? What do German newspapers do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 This was one a set of photos taken in Germany and I have just found out that they have pretty stringent privacy laws there. People photos need to have releases if they can be regarded as the main subject of the photo. Another one (Tour guide with party, generally a potential seller) down the drain.... Wow! Releases needed even for editorial use? What do German newspapers do? I'm no expert on this John, but searching the net, there appears to be exceptions, for example VIPs, public meetings, genuine news stories etc, while you can include people if they are not the main subject of the photo, e.g shot of a building with people in foreground. My view is that it's best to be safe than sorry, so any marginal cases won't be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 This was one a set of photos taken in Germany and I have just found out that they have pretty stringent privacy laws there. People photos need to have releases if they can be regarded as the main subject of the photo. Another one (Tour guide with party, generally a potential seller) down the drain.... Wow! Releases needed even for editorial use? What do German newspapers do? I'm no expert on this John, but searching the net, there appears to be exceptions, for example VIPs, public meetings, genuine news stories etc, while you can include people if they are not the main subject of the photo, e.g shot of a building with people in foreground. My view is that it's best to be safe than sorry, so any marginal cases won't be used. Gemany does indeed have "right of personality" but of course it only applies to Germany as such. No reason not to submit, I have plenty of unreleased German subjects and have made German sales with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Put many lines in the water, use different bait and you'll catch many fishes! Just be careful you don't catch a crab. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Put many lines in the water, use different bait and you'll catch many fishes! Just be careful you don't catch a crab. Allan "Crabs" also bring in money. I use crab pots for those Cheers, Philippe "Catching a crab" or "To catch a crab" is a term used in rowing circles in the UK. It basically means the rower has messed up by missing a stroke because his/her oar did not enter the water or caught on something below the water. It has come into general use for anyone who has "cocked up". Another term for messing up. Or got it wrong. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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