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All taken in Duomo di Napoli (Naples IT) Catholic cathedral

(a) & (b)
Are they nuns?  Are they monks?  Are they both?
Who specifically are they?  Why are they memorialized?
Notice in (b) center figure seems to have beard…?
(c)
Is this Sister Saint Patricia AD665 in modern robe?
Or is this a generic nun?  Or?  Who is represented behind her?
 

(a) https://photosphotos.net/IT240627032.jpg

(b) https://photosphotos.net/IT240627036.jpg

(c)  https://photosphotos.net/IT240627048.jpg

 

advice, links, appreciated, thanks in advance…
note: using Google photo search gave no confirmable info...

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Jeff, you can really pick some puzzles. I of course have great knowledge about Italian historical art (NOT), Roman Catholic history (NOT), and nuns&sisters (NOT). I'll get back to you (NOT).  

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I think the top row says something like "canons (so priests) buried in this place". Any Latin scholars on the forum?

 

C - Giovanna Antida Thouret, French saint 1765-1826. The bloke behind looks like he might be Francis of Assisi (and might not). You can usually identify saints by what they are holding but I'm not sure what that is in his right hand

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On 09/09/2024 at 23:20, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

All taken in Duomo di Napoli (Naples IT) Catholic cathedral

(a) & (b)
Are they nuns?  Are they monks?  Are they both?
Who specifically are they?  Why are they memorialized?
Notice in (b) center figure seems to have beard…?
(c)
Is this Sister Saint Patricia AD665 in modern robe?
Or is this a generic nun?  Or?  Who is represented behind her?
 

(a) https://photosphotos.net/IT240627032.jpg

(b) https://photosphotos.net/IT240627036.jpg

(c)  https://photosphotos.net/IT240627048.jpg

 

advice, links, appreciated, thanks in advance…
note: using Google photo search gave no confirmable info...

 

Are you still in Naples ? Perhaps a tour guide, or a book sold in the cathedral may be able to help ? 

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My Mediterranean itinerary was July 2024;
am not there now; but need to improve my on-site info collecting skills...

 

PhilR:  thanks!  Brilliant!
(c) if willing, how did you know “Giovanna Antida Thouret, French saint” ?
was it via Google photo search or some othe way I could employ, too?
(a & b) nuns monks priests it is !!

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12 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

My Mediterranean itinerary was July 2024;
am not there now; but need to improve my on-site info collecting skills...

 

PhilR:  thanks!  Brilliant!
(c) if willing, how did you know “Giovanna Antida Thouret, French saint” ?
was it via Google photo search or some othe way I could employ, too?
(a & b) nuns monks priests it is !!

 

I'm the same, sometimes Jeff. I rely too much on a Google search done later. Glad Phil came up trumps for you :)

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On 12/09/2024 at 19:27, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

 

PhilR:  thanks!  Brilliant!
(c) if willing, how did you know “Giovanna Antida Thouret, French saint” ?
was it via Google photo search or some othe way I could employ, too?

 

I did a pic search for 'Naples cathedral saint book' and it came up with another Alamy pic 2T9WWJR - with the name visible underneath (even though the photographer didn't think to put that in the caption!)

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...name visible underneath (even though the photographer didn't think to put that in the caption!)

ah

good catch

am going to get back in habit of photographing "reference" photos, too, when info is NOT in stock photo;

am going after those once-in-10-years buyers who search street names, statue names, local language names, etc.

it consumes mucho tiempo finding these things via google map & photo searches...

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On 23/09/2024 at 21:12, Phil Robinson said:

I did a pic search for 'Naples cathedral saint book' and it came up with another Alamy pic 2T9WWJR - with the name visible underneath (even though the photographer didn't think to put that in the caption!)

 

 

Photo by Peter Horee - one time top 500 Alamy photographer - and a name I haven't seen for a long while.

 

He now has c 93k images (including a lot of PD).

 

I agree with the comments about taking pics for reference purposes - saves Google a lot of ruining around.

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The saint is pointing to her chest which likely means this is a reliquary containing, or believed to contain, her heart, or part of it. The chap in the background, don't know. A job for a guide to the Duomo.

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