Tony Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) Has anyone ever seen this sort of licence before... Image ID: E3WEKD Country: Worldwide Usage: Advertising and promotion, Repeat Editorial and Advertorial use in owned digital channels and in supplements produced by Wanderlust Travel Media Limited. Includes archive rights in-perpetuity, Worldwide license. Includes Worldwide syndication distribution rights. Media: Advertorial Print run: Unlimited Insert: more than 25 Placement: Any - print cover & inside, electronic, online Image Size: Any size Start: 19 April 2022 Duration: In perpetuity So for £14 it appears that my image can be sold on to a third party, I can't see how that can be consistent with a rights managed image? I've also asked alamy directly, just wanted to see if anyone else has had such a licence. Tenby Harbour Edited April 21, 2022 by Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broad Norfolk Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Yes, I have had one too very recently. The bulk of my images are RM and I can't understand this. In my opinion this is not good for Contributors and in addition it also seems like Alamy are shooting themselves in the foot!! Jim 😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 Ok, so I'm not the only one. It will be interesting to see what alamy have to say. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera tigris Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 So you got about 6 for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Panthera tigris said: So you got about 6 for it? So the sale was for $ 45.65 which leaves me with £14. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 It used to be a no-no- the one thing a publisher couldn't do was sub-license our images for gain.. If Alamy is giving away syndication, what's the point? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broad Norfolk Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 2 hours ago, spacecadet said: It used to be a no-no- the one thing a publisher couldn't do was sub-license our images for gain.. If Alamy is giving away syndication, what's the point? Whose decision and how, and why, is this happening? Final straws have long gone. As has been quoted elsewhere, next stop is 'lets give them away now'. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 I'm still waiting for a response from alamy, maybe it's a mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Tony said: I'm still waiting for a response from alamy, maybe it's a mistake? they usually take 1-2 business days to response to e-mails based on my recent interactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, meanderingemu said: they usually take 1-2 business days to response to e-mails based on my recent interactions. Until now I thought Alamy was my agent, not some random publisher with whom I have no contract of any sort. Well Smarties have the answer, but does Alamy? Edited April 25, 2022 by spacecadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb photos Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 09:52, Tony said: Ok, so I'm not the only one. It will be interesting to see what alamy have to say. Tony Time will tell. It is very worrying. Thanks for making us all aware what is happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 So alamy replied saying... "We've heard back from the customer's account handler, and they have confirmed that this license is a one-time sale in which they have multiple use rights and can distribute pre-made articles but cannot sell or distribute the images on their own." So it appears they can't sell my image to third parties, it was just a badly worded licence agreement. Tony 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) I wonder how much Wanderlust Travel Media Limited charges for syndication and how it compares with the fee you received for the image they will use to help sell their article? This does illustrate the difficulty of tracking possible infringements when it concerns media companies. Edited April 26, 2022 by geogphotos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Appeal to your contributors by issuing Fair licences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 9 hours ago, geogphotos said: I wonder how much Wanderlust Travel Media Limited charges for syndication and how it compares with the fee you received for the image they will use to help sell their article? This does illustrate the difficulty of tracking possible infringements when it concerns media companies. if you "suspect infringement" you should report it, onus is on Alamy to manage it then. hopefully the new direct process will streamline this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, meanderingemu said: if you "suspect infringement" you should report it, onus is on Alamy to manage it then. hopefully the new direct process will streamline this. It is impossible to know if images are included in syndication deals on multiple editorial websites across the world. Edited April 26, 2022 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 How about this beauty?? Country: United Kingdom Usage: Editorial, Use in syndicated editorial news features, single context only. Includes archive rights in-perpetuity. Media: Newspaper - national Print run: Unlimited Insert: more than 25 Placement: National Image Size: up to full area Start: 25 April 2022 Duration: In perpetuity $ 0.16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 15 hours ago, geogphotos said: It is impossible to know if images are included in syndication deals on multiple editorial websites across the world. in the end Alamy will need to figure a way, my contractual obligation stops at reporting anything I find suspicious, i didn't write the agreement I am bound by. I already submitted one where no reference was made to the original article which i find suspicious, we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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