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A row of RAF Handley Page Hastings....just in case you needed to know.

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10 hours ago, Rob C said:

A row of RAF Handley Page Hastings....just in case you needed to know.

 

 

Thanks Rob. 👍

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Framed by a Britannia, I think...presumably XL660 again.

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7 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

Framed by a Britannia, I think...presumably XL660 again.

 

 

Yes, it looks like the same tropical setting. Think that it is in Africa.

 

There are some shots of flying over Kilimanjaro and a propellor is visible that could be the Handley??

 

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Yes, am aware of the colour cast - just a quick snap.

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14 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

 

 

Yes, it looks like the same tropical setting. Think that it is in Africa.

 

There are some shots of flying over Kilimanjaro and a propellor is visible that could be the Handley??

 

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No, the Hastings has radial engines (they look circular from the front) and that looks like a Merlin engine to me so I wonder if it could be a Lancastrian. The airliner version of the Lancaster. Very interesting.

Although it seems to have round windows and the Lancastrian's were square. Also seems to be one engine short. And the windows were aft of the wing. Hmm.

My go-to guy who could identify a British aeroplane from a square inch of fuselage is no longer with us.

I bet Rob knows.

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Nope, got me so far. Presuming its an RAF roundel, and a transport aircraft of 1950s-70s, that engine is baffling me so far. The intake under the prop should be a good clue, but it matches nothing I know, or can see. Tonights homework.

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Engine 4 of a De Haviland Heron. Maybe....

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47 minutes ago, Mr Standfast said:

Engine 4 of a De Haviland Heron. Maybe....

No, all those DH Transporters, Devon, Heron, Dove, had very forward engines

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23 hours ago, Rob C said:

Nope, got me so far. Presuming its an RAF roundel, and a transport aircraft of 1950s-70s, that engine is baffling me so far. The intake under the prop should be a good clue, but it matches nothing I know, or can see. Tonights homework.

Not a Merlin then? That was my assumption but nothing the RAF operated really fits.

Perhaps Ian will dig up some more views of it.

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A good place to ask about anything concerning aircraft is the PPRuNe forums - the Professional Pilots Rumour Network.  I once asked for an ID on a helicopter and got offered a trip on the jump seat of one - if I was ever in Aberdeen....🙂  

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On 11/05/2020 at 14:43, spacecadet said:

.... We have an aviation specialist here, avpics....

Well, thank you very much, and my apologies for not seeing this before now. I can only really comment from what I see published in the aviation press as far as there being a need and in that case I'd suggest the 'story' behind the image would have a baring; the where, when and why, rather than the aircraft with that in itself being fairly common. They're certainly very interesting in showing historical content, if you were to know what that is. The row of Hastings aircraft is a great story image.

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On 14/05/2020 at 18:15, geogphotos said:

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Struggling with the small image. It certainly looks Merlin shaped but I can't match a type with that bulge on the cowling. 99 and 511 squadrons served in the Suez Crisis which would have made for added interest but the Britannia didn't enter service until a few years afterwards.

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Thought to be Madeira and 1980s. TAP and Britannia Airways planes - but what sort of planes please?

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Boeing 727 (nearest) , and 737. Not sure whether -100 or -200 models, you have to count the windows.  I'd put both in the keywords.

The 727 had an onboard airstair at the back- only aeroplane I've ever got out of from the blunt end.

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43 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

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Thought to be Madeira and 1980s. TAP and Britannia Airways planes - but what sort of planes please?

I think the nearer, TAP, one is a Boeing 727 and the one beyond may be a Boeing 737

 

I got preempted by spacecadet!, at least we agree!

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On 14/05/2020 at 10:08, spacecadet said:

No, the Hastings has radial engines (they look circular from the front) and that looks like a Merlin engine to me so I wonder if it could be a Lancastrian. The airliner version of the Lancaster. Very interesting.

Although it seems to have round windows and the Lancastrian's were square. Also seems to be one engine short. And the windows were aft of the wing. Hmm.

My go-to guy who could identify a British aeroplane from a square inch of fuselage is no longer with us.

I bet Rob knows.

 

I wondered whether it was a York which was also a transport variant of the Lancaster. Could it be the outer engine taken from the cockpit of Lancastrian, the other picture looks as though it is taken through the windscreen. The cockpit of the York is too far forward and too low for that view of the engine.

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Thank you both very much. 

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1 hour ago, Martin P Wilson said:

 

I wondered whether it was a York which was also a transport variant of the Lancaster. Could it be the outer engine taken from the cockpit of Lancastrian, the other picture looks as though it is taken through the windscreen. The cockpit of the York is too far forward and too low for that view of the engine.

The York is high- wing as well. It must be the outer engine of a Lancastrian, but as Avpics says the cowling isn't right. Ian's original pix are AWOL, but the intakes weren't right, either. And how do you avoid seeing the inner engine?

I would be happy captioning it "believed to be a Lancastrian".

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43 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

The York is high- wing as well. It must be the outer engine of a Lancastrian, but as Avpics says the cowling isn't right. Ian's original pix are AWOL, but the intakes weren't right, either. And how do you avoid seeing the inner engine?

I would be happy captioning it "believed to be a Lancastrian".

 

I've avoided trying to caption the plane, just mentioned that it is flying over Kilimanjaro. Thanks for all your efforts but clearly the actual type of plane is still unknown snd not well illustrated even if we could pin it down.

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At the risk of putting my anorak on, the Britannia 737 is  Series 200. They never flew 100s, and didn't fly the 300s until 1989 with the new colours.

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Just for discussion... The De Haviland Heron had a longer fuselage, so the view from the front Windows might fit. It also had what looked like de icing boots on the leading edge of the wing...

 

Anyway great fun digging out my 1961 Observers World Aircraft Directory, which didn't help. Tiny little pictures, which don't get bigger when you put two fingers on them and pull you finger tips apart...Yes I did that! 😉

 

Stay safe

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3 minutes ago, Mr Standfast said:

Just for discussion... The De Haviland Heron had a longer fuselage, so the view from the front Windows might fit. It also had what looked like de icing boots on the leading edge of the wing...

 

Anyway great fun digging out my 1961 Observers World Aircraft Directory, which didn't help. Tiny little pictures, which don't get bigger when you put two fingers on them and pull you finger tips apart...Yes I did that! 😉

 

Stay safe

I can't see that cowling as having a Gipsy Queen in it. Ian's original image showed the intake and it looked very unlike a DH one.

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