Ed Rooney Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I'm wondering what if any valuable or helpful information we get from All of Alamy. I do feel the wording of the subjects in "Search Term" is a good guide to consider when doing keywording. (Maybe.) "Sales"? Since this almost always shows a zero, occasionally a one, there's not much to be learned from that. "Zooms" seem to show a keen interest from some enthusiastic researchers, not sure what it means though. Now "Views"? Hmm. The islands in the Caribbean are always at or near the top of both Zooms and Views. Dogs are also something people like to look at. Double hmm. I like dogs but I've never liked the Caribbean, so I find myself halfway into the main stream here. "CTR"? Well, if I'm confused by everything else, I suppose I should just turn my back on CTR. It is a puzzlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Ed, I was born in the Caribbean (Antigua) and have very fond childhood memories. However, that was before the islands were overrun by mass tourism and celebrities. I also like dogs (with some exceptions such as pit bulls and yappy chihuahuas). However, I can't help you at all when it comes to unraveling the mysteries of "All of Alamy." Personally, I find "Your Images" to be much better suited to my limited brain power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I quite like this recent "Search Term" currently on "All of Alamy": "house colorful not fun not bird not food not dish not girl not family not man not woman not cute not animal not dog not cat not child not baby" What's left? One might ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneWay Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 "Sales"? Since this almost always shows a zero, occasionally a one, there's not much to be learned from that. It is a puzzlement. Ed, In All of Alamy, if you click on the menu data title, "Sales," the list of search terms will be reordered in order of sales (from most to least) and puts all the items that show 0 sales some three or four pages away (you have to click on the Sales title twice to get order from highest to lowest). I find this feature very useful to see what search terms buyers are using that generate the most sales...and if my own keywords are missing any of the terms if I have a similar image. I also find it useful to search for subjects (especially those I can find right around my house) I hadn't thought of shooting that have sold. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I wonder how often the "Sales" data is updated. For instance, "All of Alamy" shows no sales at all for "Vancouver" searches during the past month. This isn't the case, of course. P.S. Before leaving on a trip to Mexico earlier this year, I used All of Alamy to look for gaps in Alamy's coverage for each of the places that I would be visiting. This proved to be quite useful. However, I've yet to sell an image from the trip. Have had some zooms, though, so hope springs eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Todd Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I often wonder if there's any point in checking out searches which have 0 results. If someone has searched for something and it returns 0, will they return to search again in the future? I still like to play around with the results to give me ideas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I often wonder if there's any point in checking out searches which have 0 results. If someone has searched for something and it returns 0, will they return to search again in the future? I still like to play around with the results to give me ideas though. Yes, I guess it makes more sense if there is more than one UCO for searches that yield zero results. Still, it's better than chasing subjects that are already over-represented on Alamy IMO. Lightning does sometimes strike twice in the same spot. At least, that's what I keep telling myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Oh, look at that, Dave! I'm gonna click on some other things, too. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneWay Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Oh, look at that, Dave! I'm gonna click on some other things, too. Thanks. Glad to be of help! Click away. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 "Sales"? Since this almost always shows a zero, occasionally a one, there's not much to be learned from that. It is a puzzlement. Ed, In All of Alamy, if you click on the menu data title, "Sales," the list of search terms will be reordered in order of sales (from most to least) and puts all the items that show 0 sales some three or four pages away (you have to click on the Sales title twice to get order from highest to lowest). I find this feature very useful to see what search terms buyers are using that generate the most sales...and if my own keywords are missing any of the terms if I have a similar image. I also find it useful to search for subjects (especially those I can find right around my house) I hadn't thought of shooting that have sold. Dave an interesting exercise..but take `pumpkin' as a search word...it comes up with 45,000+ entries and many more links...I have a few pumpkin shots..but how would I ever find mine in such a big field of pumpkins? ...is there a generic search order if a potential buyer doesn't specify? e.g. date order or ref number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Your Alamy rank determines the order of results to some extent. I've had much better sales this year so I appear higher up in many searches. Not much higher, a bit higher. IMO upload date has some effect as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov makabaw Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I have a quick look through All of Alamy most days. I find it useful to find search words which I don't have as well as alternative spellings and new buzz words. Only a fraction of searches appear in these statistics but it is still a useful albeit imperfect guide. The search facility is very helpful when I am shooting in a new location or different subject. At the end of the day forget about logic and good spelling. If we want to attract buyers we have to present our pix in the way that they search for them. I always keep an eye on my CTR. When it starts slipping, again, I know that it is time to review and clean up my pseudos. dov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Todd Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Your Alamy rank determines the order of results to some extent. I've had much better sales this year so I appear higher up in many searches. Not much higher, a bit higher. IMO upload date has some effect as well. I also think being willing to join the newspaper scheme, Novel Use & Distribution scheme where your images are sold for peanuts gives you a higher Alamy Rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 "Sales"? Since this almost always shows a zero, occasionally a one, there's not much to be learned from that. It is a puzzlement. Ed,In All of Alamy, if you click on the menu data title, "Sales," the list of search terms will be reordered in order of sales (from most to least) and puts all the items that show 0 sales some three or four pages away (you have to click on the Sales title twice to get order from highest to lowest). I find this feature very useful to see what search terms buyers are using that generate the most sales...and if my own keywords are missing any of the terms if I have a similar image. I also find it useful to search for subjects (especially those I can find right around my house) I hadn't thought of shooting that have sold. Dave Forget the sales field from AoA, it gets populated only if a sale can be directly linked to that search, which seems to be seldom the case. Vad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Your Alamy rank determines the order of results to some extent. I've had much better sales this year so I appear higher up in many searches. Not much higher, a bit higher. IMO upload date has some effect as well. I also think being willing to join the newspaper scheme, Novel Use & Distribution scheme where your images are sold for peanuts gives you a higher Alamy Rank. Novel use sales don't count towards Alamy Rank. Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Todd Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Your Alamy rank determines the order of results to some extent. I've had much better sales this year so I appear higher up in many searches. Not much higher, a bit higher. IMO upload date has some effect as well. I also think being willing to join the newspaper scheme, Novel Use & Distribution scheme where your images are sold for peanuts gives you a higher Alamy Rank. Novel use sales don't count towards Alamy Rank. Pearl Thanks Pearl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneWay Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 "Sales"? Since this almost always shows a zero, occasionally a one, there's not much to be learned from that. It is a puzzlement. Ed,In All of Alamy, if you click on the menu data title, "Sales," the list of search terms will be reordered in order of sales (from most to least) and puts all the items that show 0 sales some three or four pages away (you have to click on the Sales title twice to get order from highest to lowest). I find this feature very useful to see what search terms buyers are using that generate the most sales...and if my own keywords are missing any of the terms if I have a similar image. I also find it useful to search for subjects (especially those I can find right around my house) I hadn't thought of shooting that have sold. Dave Forget the sales field from AoA, it gets populated only if a sale can be directly linked to that search, which seems to be seldom the case. Vad That's true, Vlad...but Alamy also has researchers who find pics for buyers (most of my sales). I wouldn't want to miss keywords that an in-house searcher might use. My best seller is a most mundane subject that I clued into by looking at terms which resulted in Sales in AoA; it has sold six times for amounts ranging from $90 to $215. AoA is just another tool that can help, even if just a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Endicott Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 ...and all the while I'm thinking I need to go to the Caribean to photograph dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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