John Mitchell Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I file my own DACS claim, but I received an e-mail today from Alamy asking me if I would like them to claim two 2014 TV uses for me. Sounds like a good idea to me because I find the TV part of the DACS form impossible to fill out. Is anyone else letting Alamy do the work for just TV claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I got same email today. I've already done mine online. Obviously, I'd be keen to find out about the TV claim I might be entitled to. Anyone know if Alamy give out this info to photographers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No, they don't. I don't see how you could possibly find out yourself unless you were an extremely avid watcher of TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 No, they don't. I don't see how you could possibly find out yourself unless you were an extremely avid watcher of TV. Exactly. I tend to watch mainly news and documentary programs (and of course "The Bachelorette"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Well I replied to the email with what I thought was the completed form but apparently I didn't actually complete it so have to return to that page and scratch my head a bit more. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Yes, I've agreed that Alamy can make a payback claim for my TV sales, but I am the only one claiming for books and magazines. Otherwise DACs and Alamy and myself would have to have an awkward conversation about who gets what split as we are not allowed double dipping from this year onwards. It's only fair although it is yet another bit of my revenue reducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 "we are not allowed double dipping from this year onwards" You are still allowed double dipping, but ONLY if the combined points value of the claims comes to less that 240... km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jordan Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I have made my own claim to DACS for several years and so declined Alamy's offer to do it for me. (After all, I know how to do it and Alamy do charge 50%). Later I got an e-mail from Alamy offering to make a DACS claim for me for a Sale of one image to TV. Again I declined. The licence details included the fact that the sale had been made to ITV and for up to two transmissions. I telephoned DACS, and they were most helpful. They need to know that the "Region" is UK. They confirmed that ITV is acceptable to them. I completed the claim and have subsequently had an e-mail from DACS. Confirming that it is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 So there is enough detail in the licence information for a DACS claim. Very handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regen Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 "You are still allowed double dipping, but ONLY if the combined points value of the claims comes to less that 240..." Hi Keith, Would you care to elaborate- specifically the numerical points value and how its worked out. Many thanks Regen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Can someone explain double dipping and pointsin relation to DACS, , I'm completely in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 My TV usage details for 2014 look like this (see below), so it's pretty well impossible for me to fill out the DACS form. Country: WorldwideUsage: EditorialMedia: Television (editorial)Print run: Unlimited transmissionsPlacement: Use within body of showStart: 04 December 2014End: 04 December 2024World, All Media in perpetuity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regen Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 My TV usage details for 2014 look like this (see below), so it's pretty well impossible for me to fill out the DACS form. Country: WorldwideUsage: EditorialMedia: Television (editorial)Print run: Unlimited transmissionsPlacement: Use within body of showStart: 04 December 2014End: 04 December 2024World, All Media in perpetuity So why not ask Alamy to provide you with the details required ie the name of the channel- they must have the info for them to make a claim so you are entitled to the same info. TV claims only last for the year and are the most profitable part of the dacs claim. Regen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 they must have the info for them to make a claim so you are entitled to the same info. Regen No. The licensee is Alamy's customer, not ours. We're not contractually entitled to know who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 I would think that Mark is correct. Alamy is not obligated to provide the necessary usage info. For these two TV claims, I'm happy that Alamy is willing to do the work. The rest is easy to do myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famousbelgian Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I do my own DACS claim but have agreed for Alamy to claim the TV licenses for me. Alamy tells me I have 11 TV broadcasts to claim for. I can only find 6 in my sales reports and the channel mentioned (More4) does not appear on the DACS claim form so I didn't include them in my own claim. I wasn't aware TV license payback was more valuable than books/magazines so this could be good news ... Better to get 50% of 11 x payback for TV licenses than 100% of nothing I say. For those not claiming DACS themselves, it really is much easier than you think. Go for it ! The people at DACS are very helpful, especially to people who have never claimed before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 so, still things to learn about DACs. I hadn't realised either that TV claims were more valuable. I wait to see what Alamy comes up with. I do think it would be fair and helpful of they flagged up the fact that it was a DACs payment on the sales report come December or January, it is a bit of a special case. Also, I had not noticed the detail on the claim notes pointed out by Keith Morris for combined claims for under 240. I can see the sense of that just about, but it does throw in a considerable extra complication. Direct sales from my collection to publishers has been a big part of my operation for more years than I care to specify so my numbers would be towards the top end. Of course there are seriously successful photographers who's numbers would be off the scale. I remember a couple of long-running magazines where I would be pleased to have a little clutch of three or four snaps published, but my euphoria would almost always be crushed by seeing that Michael Holford had many more. Hard to begrudge him the numbers 'cause he's such a nice chap and worked so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Would someone please explain the points and double-dipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Would someone please explain the points and double-dipping? See the last FAQ. The points is the way that DACs calculate the maxing out of a part of a claim. There is an example somewhere in their site but I can't find it now. http://www.dacs.org.uk/for-artists/payback/frequently-asked-questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Thanks, Geoff. I sort of get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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