Linda Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 On the Fuji X forum, somebody said they were disappointed with the Zeiss lenses. I think he ordered the two on special, and said the Fuji lens was sharper, and one of the Zeiss had a weird design that he thought hurt IQ. Also slower to focus than the Fuji comparable. I'd stick with Fuji unless you have a need for the Zeiss 50mm, which is quite good. But if I get a macro, I'll hold out until Fuji offers one longer than 50mm. I want a longer working distance than that. Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 On the Fuji X forum, somebody said they were disappointed with the Zeiss lenses. I think he ordered the two on special, and said the Fuji lens was sharper, and one of the Zeiss had a weird design that he thought hurt IQ. Also slower to focus than the Fuji comparable. I'd stick with Fuji unless you have a need for the Zeiss 50mm, which is quite good. But if I get a macro, I'll hold out until Fuji offers one longer than 50mm. I want a longer working distance than that. Betty The Fuji macro is 60mm 2.4. Still I'd like it to be longer. Thanks for the info on those lenses! L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 On the Fuji X forum, somebody said they were disappointed with the Zeiss lenses. I think he ordered the two on special, and said the Fuji lens was sharper, and one of the Zeiss had a weird design that he thought hurt IQ. Also slower to focus than the Fuji comparable. I'd stick with Fuji unless you have a need for the Zeiss 50mm, which is quite good. But if I get a macro, I'll hold out until Fuji offers one longer than 50mm. I want a longer working distance than that. Betty The Fuji macro is 60mm 2.4. Still I'd like it to be longer. Thanks for the info on those lenses! L But only 1:2 not 1:1 which would be better. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_Andison Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L From what I've read, the 12 Zeiss is good but a lot of people still prefer the 14mm for IQ. I sold a 12mm Voigtlander in favour of the 14mm Fuji which is exceptional. How do you find the quality of the 10-24 when compared to the 23mm? I was considering that zoom but it would have to be sharp from 12mm onwards to make it worth while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L Linda, I bought a Zeiss Toiit 2.8/12 very wide when they first came out, but I returned it in just a few days. The AF would not stop hunting. At the time, these were the first Zeiss lenses that used AF and they seemed to have got it wrong. If they're still producing the Touit line, I assume they've solved the AF problem. This lens was for my NEX cameras. You'll remember that Sony kept dragging their feet with their own lens system. This Touit was very sharp . . . when I was able to capture an image with it. I'm shooting with the RX10 now and it's Zeiss zoom. Note that the RX10 gets a high 80% a Gold Rating (don't know what that is?) on DPReview, and a lot of that is because of the Zeiss zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L From what I've read, the 12 Zeiss is good but a lot of people still prefer the 14mm for IQ. I sold a 12mm Voigtlander in favour of the 14mm Fuji which is exceptional. How do you find the quality of the 10-24 when compared to the 23mm? I was considering that zoom but it would have to be sharp from 12mm onwards to make it worth while. The IQ of the 23mm 1.4 is amazing! L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_Andison Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L From what I've read, the 12 Zeiss is good but a lot of people still prefer the 14mm for IQ. I sold a 12mm Voigtlander in favour of the 14mm Fuji which is exceptional. How do you find the quality of the 10-24 when compared to the 23mm? I was considering that zoom but it would have to be sharp from 12mm onwards to make it worth while. The IQ of the 23mm 1.4 is amazing! L I know, I have that one It's the 10-24 I was thinking about. How does the zoom compare to the prime? I think I will only consider the zoom if I found a great deal for the zoom that meant I could keep the 14mm prime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L Linda, I bought a Zeiss Toiit 28/12 very wide when they first came out, but I returned it in just a few days. The AF would not stop hunting. At the time, these were the first Zeiss lenses that used AF and they seemed to have got it wrong. If they're still producing the Touit line, I assume they've solved the AF problem. This lens was for my NEX cameras. You'll remember that Sony kept dragging their feet with their own lens system. This Touit was very sharp . . . when I was able to capture an image with it. I'm shooting with the RX10 now and it's Zeiss zoom. Note that the RX10 gets a high 80% a Gold Rating (don't know what that is?) on DPReview, and a lot of that is because of the Zeiss zoom. These pricey lens are out of my reach (although the big $34 sale I've made this month should help ). However, I noticed that Zeiss says the following on their website: "For optimum compatibility of Touit lenses on Sony NEX cameras we recommend to use the latest firmware (1.02 for NEX-5R/NEX-6 and 1.03 for NEX-7 or higher). The firmware can be downloaded from the Sony website: www.sony.com" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L From what I've read, the 12 Zeiss is good but a lot of people still prefer the 14mm for IQ. I sold a 12mm Voigtlander in favour of the 14mm Fuji which is exceptional. How do you find the quality of the 10-24 when compared to the 23mm? I was considering that zoom but it would have to be sharp from 12mm onwards to make it worth while. The IQ of the 23mm 1.4 is amazing! L I know, I have that one It's the 10-24 I was thinking about. How does the zoom compare to the prime? I think I will only consider the zoom if I found a great deal for the zoom that meant I could keep the 14mm prime! I'm impressed with the 10-24. I'd say it's probably the best zoom I've used in that range.Sometimes the really wide lenses can be hit or miss but this is good. Yes,in some cases the 23mm is of course better.It's an insanely sharp prime and faster. BUT the 10-24 is stabilized and the 23mm is not. I've used the 10-24 wide open at f4 and it was sharp even in the corners. David Hobby of Strobist.com went to Dubai with just the X-T1 and the 10-24mm. Look at all of his photo stream. Here is one shot I though was cool... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidhobby/13187772625/in/photolist-nKKN2H-jZWosX-n5AipH-nmTsMd-m6mMm6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_Andison Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L From what I've read, the 12 Zeiss is good but a lot of people still prefer the 14mm for IQ. I sold a 12mm Voigtlander in favour of the 14mm Fuji which is exceptional. How do you find the quality of the 10-24 when compared to the 23mm? I was considering that zoom but it would have to be sharp from 12mm onwards to make it worth while. The IQ of the 23mm 1.4 is amazing! L I know, I have that one It's the 10-24 I was thinking about. How does the zoom compare to the prime? I think I will only consider the zoom if I found a great deal for the zoom that meant I could keep the 14mm prime! I'm impressed with the 10-24. I'd say it's probably the best zoom I've used in that range.Sometimes the really wide lenses can be hit or miss but this is good. Yes,in some cases the 23mm is of course better.It's an insanely sharp prime and faster. BUT the 10-24 is stabilized and the 23mm is not. I've used the 10-24 wide open at f4 and it was sharp even in the corners. David Hobby of Strobist.com went to Dubai with just the X-T1 and the 10-24mm. Look at all of his photo stream. Here is one shot I though was cool... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidhobby/13187772625/in/photolist-nKKN2H-jZWosX-n5AipH-nmTsMd-m6mMm6 Sounds impressive. I think I will keep an eye open for special offers from Fuji that include this lens. That shot is gorgeous by the way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm using the Fuji X-T1 and have the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and Fuji 10-24 f4 zoom Anyone using these lenses and the new Zeiss Touit lenses? Which do you like better and why? I almost prefer primes but the quality would have to be as good on the Zeiss as it is Fuji. Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 and Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8 L From what I've read, the 12 Zeiss is good but a lot of people still prefer the 14mm for IQ. I sold a 12mm Voigtlander in favour of the 14mm Fuji which is exceptional. How do you find the quality of the 10-24 when compared to the 23mm? I was considering that zoom but it would have to be sharp from 12mm onwards to make it worth while. The IQ of the 23mm 1.4 is amazing! L I know, I have that one It's the 10-24 I was thinking about. How does the zoom compare to the prime? I think I will only consider the zoom if I found a great deal for the zoom that meant I could keep the 14mm prime! I'm impressed with the 10-24. I'd say it's probably the best zoom I've used in that range.Sometimes the really wide lenses can be hit or miss but this is good. Yes,in some cases the 23mm is of course better.It's an insanely sharp prime and faster. BUT the 10-24 is stabilized and the 23mm is not. I've used the 10-24 wide open at f4 and it was sharp even in the corners. David Hobby of Strobist.com went to Dubai with just the X-T1 and the 10-24mm. Look at all of his photo stream. Here is one shot I though was cool... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidhobby/13187772625/in/photolist-nKKN2H-jZWosX-n5AipH-nmTsMd-m6mMm6 Sounds impressive. I think I will keep an eye open for special offers from Fuji that include this lens. That shot is gorgeous by the way!! I bought the 10-24mm used w/the receipt from Adorama. It was 5 weeks old and perfect..I paid...$770! :-) A couple other Fuji lenses I bought new as well like the 56mm 1.2. NEW...$125 off. L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Ah, Linda, I must make you my personal shopper. You are totally exasperating in a wonderful way. You can dig out these bargains from a pile of rotting pumpkins, dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Baigent Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Duncan, I have been using the 10-24 for shooting interiors and it is excellent. but I do miss shift :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_Andison Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I think my list is now.... 18-135 120-400 10-24 I may end up off loading the 55-200 if the 18-135 is really good and fits my needs. As far as primes go, I can't see how the 14,23 and 56 could be improved upon. If a 90mm macro at 1:1 appears on the scene, that is likely to replace the 60mm but for me, I'm nearing a complete system, as far as lenses go. Mark, do you mean the clutch change from AF to Manual focus? It's a nice feature to quickly switch from one to the other without even taking your hand off the lens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Baigent Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi Duncan> Mark, do you mean the clutch change from AF to Manual focus? It's a nice feature to quickly switch from one to the other without even taking your hand off the lens! No, though I do like that. I miss shift as in tilt shift lens, the change in the height of apparent viewpoint by using drop front is useful when shooting interiors. You can set the camera high to clear furniture then drop the front of the lens to show floorspace not ceiling, without tipping the camera down. Sorry if that is an egg sucking lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciprocity Images Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi Duncan > Mark, do you mean the clutch change from AF to Manual focus? It's a nice feature to quickly switch from one to the other without even taking your hand off the lens! No, though I do like that. I miss shift as in tilt shift lens, the change in the height of apparent viewpoint by using drop front is useful when shooting interiors. You can set the camera high to clear furniture then drop the front of the lens to show floorspace not ceiling, without tipping the camera down. Sorry if that is an egg sucking lesson. Tilt/Shift on X-mount would be great. Something like 24mm FF equivalent I would go for right away. There are EOS (and probably others) adapters, but of course you will loose AF and IS capabilities. That shouldn't matter when working with T/S though! Just a thought. -Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDoug Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Tilt/Shift on X-mount would be great. Something like 24mm FF equivalent I would go for right away. There are EOS (and probably others) adapters, but of course you will loose AF and IS capabilities. That shouldn't matter when working with T/S though! Just a thought. -J I think the Kipon tilt/shift adapter looks interesting ( http://aboutphotography-tomgrill.blogspot.de/2014/01/tilt-shift-adapter-on-fuji-x-e2-x-pro1.html ) paired with something like a Sigma 14mm MF lens ( http://www.bythom.com/14lens.htm ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Baigent Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi DDoug That would work...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_Andison Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi Duncan > Mark, do you mean the clutch change from AF to Manual focus? It's a nice feature to quickly switch from one to the other without even taking your hand off the lens! No, though I do like that. I miss shift as in tilt shift lens, the change in the height of apparent viewpoint by using drop front is useful when shooting interiors. You can set the camera high to clear furniture then drop the front of the lens to show floorspace not ceiling, without tipping the camera down. Sorry if that is an egg sucking lesson. Got ya.... and yeah, very useful. I wouldn't be surprised to see more specialist lenses appearing once the bulk of the main lenses have been covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Tilt/Shift on X-mount would be great. Something like 24mm FF equivalent I would go for right away. There are EOS (and probably others) adapters, but of course you will loose AF and IS capabilities. That shouldn't matter when working with T/S though! Just a thought. -J I think the Kipon tilt/shift adapter looks interesting ( http://aboutphotography-tomgrill.blogspot.de/2014/01/tilt-shift-adapter-on-fuji-x-e2-x-pro1.html ) paired with something like a Sigma 14mm MF lens ( http://www.bythom.com/14lens.htm ). I may be mistaken but I could not find one of these very useful items that allowed Fuji XF lenses to be attached to the front end, only Nikon, Olympus etc. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Baigent Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Hi Alan You would need a full frame lens with a shift adapter for the larger image circle. If you used a fuji lens plus shift you would move the smaller image circle off of the sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDoug Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Hi Allan, The Sigma 14mm, not to be confused with their 15mm fisheye, was a rectilinear lens with a full-frame image circle. The original MF f/3.5 was followed with AF f/3.5 then f/2.8.If I'm to focus manually, then I prefer a manual focus lens. So I'd go for the original. All of them are prone to flare but you get sharp images and straight lines. As Mark said, it only works with full-frame lenses and Kipon currently makes T/S adapters for only a few brands as you noted. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciprocity Images Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Hi Alan You would need a full frame lens with a shift adapter for the larger image circle. If you used a fuji lens plus shift you would move the smaller image circle off of the sensor. Best would be a Fuji-made T/S lens specifically for X-cameras. This would probably slightly big... and heavy... and expensive... but considering the limitations of other options, I've chosen to stick with Canon FF and 24mmT/S for those needs... Would LOVE to see T/S from Fuji though. Wouldn't really count on it though, as I'd imagine it wouldn't be too cost effective for Fuji to develop/market to a likely very limited number of users... -Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Big drawback with adapters is they usually only shift one way, it really limits how useful they really are for architecture/landscape. And if you want to have dual axis shift, well the lenses get bigger - that's the new Mark2 24 (dual axis) with it's older version (single axis) skulking behind.....and yes, it is that much bigger and that much heavier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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