geogphotos Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) I assume this is c 1960. Any suggested locations or information about the vehicles on the freight train? Thanks for looking. Edited October 9, 2022 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StokeCreative Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I'm wondering if its on the continent, the vehicles look German like a Hanomag or Wiking (yes those well known brands!) Not sure the grill shape is right though. Otherwise the lovechild of a VW camper and a Commer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StokeCreative Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, StokeCreative said: I'm wondering if its on the continent, the vehicles look German like a Hanomag or Wiking (yes those well known brands!) Not sure the grill shape is right though. Otherwise the lovechild of a VW camper and a Commer + I think that Belgian railways "B"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Are the trucks left or right hand drive? Alamy watermark in the way. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla Dave Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, StokeCreative said: + I think that Belgian railways "B"? Belgian Railways "B" looks a good spot... see also J1WY20 or D38BJY These people might be able to help for the location... https://www.trainworld.be/en/contact Hanomag sounds like a good suggestion also, see... https://www.favcars.com/pictures-hanomag-markant-pritschenwagen-1960-67-22434.htm GD Edited October 9, 2022 by Gorilla Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Terrible quality. Film was Agrachrome and the guy took loads of pics all around the world but must have had a crap camera. I assumed that this one is UK but have no actual basis for that. It looks like a C19th railway station. This at least shows the shape of the front grill that may mean something. Edited October 9, 2022 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) This Tempo Matador E looks quite similar: https://i0.wp.com/www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tempo-Matador-E-Pritsche.jpg They're just the cabs aren't they? So perhaps in the country of origin, which is Germany I think. Station does have that Victorian Neo-Gothic look though but not any of the London ones as far as I can tell. Edited October 9, 2022 by Harry Harrison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Should that be Agfachrome - or Aggrochrome? Edited October 9, 2022 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Hmm. Rolling chassis more like. The one on the far right, is that a steering wheel you can see, if so that's LH drive. Edited October 9, 2022 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) SNCB still use the "B" logo. So deffo Belgian railways. "The corporate logo designed in 1936 by Henry van de Velde consists of the linguistically neutral letter B in a horizontal oval. Wikipedia" Rather similar style to Amsterdam Centraal, but the exterior so that's approximately zero help. There's a hanging sign above the van at far right- is it legible? Edited October 10, 2022 by spacecadet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Aggrochrome! Thanks everybody for looking and trying to help. This image is not on Alamy. I only posted here on the off-chance that it might show something of interest that somebody might spot. Edited October 10, 2022 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Not legible then, too bad. It's still worth putting up IMO, with a tentative ID on the vans. You know the train is Belgian at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony ALS Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Described as a Tempo Matador E Pritschenwagen Kleintransporter Baujahr 1963-67 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Tony ALS said: Described as a Tempo Matador E Pritschenwagen Kleintransporter Baujahr 1963-67 You nailed it Tony! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 aka Flatbed pickup. Yours could be destined to have any sort of body built on to them, they don't even seem to have tyres. Actually I remember as a child passenger in my parents' car being quite excited to see bare shells like this being driven around, between factory departments I suppose, they were a little more complete though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony ALS Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, geogphotos said: You nailed it Tony! Thanks No problem Ian. Too many railway stations look similar (to me at least) so can't help you there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Tony ALS said: No problem Ian. Too many railway stations look similar (to me at least) so can't help you there! I have also been looking at railway stations ( without any success) but at least I now have enough to write a caption - in any case its probably the vehicles rather than the railway station that would be of interest ie) that they are being transported by train. I read that the factory was in Hamburg but the station there doesn't look like this. It could be anywhere in Europe I suppose. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The station looks a lot like a Dutch train station by the architect Margadant, who designed quite a few around 1900. It may well be Den Haag Holland Spoor or HS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_Haag_HS_railway_station The roof structure is 19th century. We have a couple left in the country. Because the structure is quite distinctive and pretty large it can only be situated on a major line that had big stations in the 19th century and still existed in the late fifties / early sixties. Which rules out Rotterdam. So Amsterdam; Haarlem; Den Haag HS. It's not Amsterdam or Haarlem. I was born in Amsterdam and live in Haarlem. 😁 Besides Amsterdam has a different architect. Haarlem is by Margadant, but 20 years later with both Disney castle appearance but with Jugendstil and Deco details. Den Haag HS is firmly end of the 19th century style. Aha here we go: View from the platform. The Royal waiting room is on the right. It's just visible in your image. View from the opposite platform. And one straight on. The Tempo Matador-E first came on the market in 1963. The Hanomag and Tempo are the same car from 2 different factories within a joint venture. Both were coach builders. Part of the interesting history of German car making. Anyway it places your image in 1963 or later. wim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Hamburg Altona is a possibility ... some similarities in the roof structure and supports as in this image ... Image ID: BXFDXF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, wiskerke said: The station looks a lot like a Dutch train station by the architect Margadant, who designed quite a few around 1900. It may well be Den Haag Holland Spoor or HS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_Haag_HS_railway_station The roof structure is 19th century. We have a couple left in the country. Because the structure is quite distinctive and pretty large it can only be situated on a major line that had big stations in the 19th century and still existed in the late fifties / early sixties. Which rules out Rotterdam. So Amsterdam; Haarlem; Den Haag HS. It's not Amsterdam or Haarlem. I was born in Amsterdam and live in Haarlem. 😁 Besides Amsterdam has a different architect. Haarlem is by Margadant, but 20 years later with both Disney castle appearance but with Jugendstil and Deco details. Den Haag HS is firmly end of the 19th century style. Aha here we go: View from the platform. The Royal waiting room is on the right. It's just visible in your image. View from the opposite platform. And one straight on. The Tempo Matador-E first came on the market in 1963. The Hanomag and Tempo are the same car from 2 different factories within a joint venture. Both were coach builders. Part of the interesting history of German car making. Anyway it places your image in 1963 or later. wim Brilliant! I thought that it looked a like a hotel, offices or similar. Den Haag station it is. Well done Wim and many thanks to you and everybody for helping 😁 Edited October 10, 2022 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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