Martin Carlsson Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi everyone/someone, I've never done this before - because I'm stubborn and have issues asking for help but here goes nothing... if anyone could/would be so kind to help point me in the right direction of these "unknown" I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you in advance! Location unhelpful as they are all "captives". 1. 2. 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Sorry don't know about snakes but bird looks like a kite (not sure which one though). At least I have bumped your thread for you so some more knowledgable person can see it. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 @Allan Bell - thank you @GS-Images OMG - you're amazing Thank You! @Philippe - come on now, come back, cheer us all up! and thank you very much for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdh Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, Martin Carlsson said: @Allan Bell - thank you @GS-Images OMG - you're amazing Thank You! @Philippe - come on now, come back, cheer us all up! and thank you very much for the help! +1 (i would give 10 if I could) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, GS-Images said: I think Philippe and John could make money from their knowledge of plants and animals. I know I'd pay a little for ID's, and I bet others would too. Plus I wouldn't then feel guilty about asking so often! Geoff. Absolutely - PayPal tip jar type thing. Also, does bribes work on Philippe? I've pleaded to no avail and he would have had a field day yesterday with our friendly newest addition/recent loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I do make money from my knowledge - Alamy has been quite profitable to date. Don't ask me about birds. I know nothing about them. I've never been that interested, possibly because the long lenses that are really needed have been beyond my financial reach. But insects and other small beasties, garden plants and botanicals, and other small stuff I'll always have a go at. So bring them on and I'll try and give some pointers if not a positive ID. It's not altruism - though it's hard to take the zoologist / ecologist and teacher / trainer urge to communicate and explain away even if I'm now retired - but pragmatism. I'm dependent on Alamy being seen as a reliable source for my type of images. Which means correct captioning and keywording (a point expressed in another thread). If I can help with IDs to the extent that it helps the overall reputation of Alamy as a go to source for my type of imagery then I also help myself. I'll happily compete with other photographers - it forces me to enhance my own skills - but I can't compete with the type of wilful ignorance that does us all disservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 It cheers me up to know that Philippe is still here even if just as a reader. Come back! We miss you. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdh Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, NYCat said: It cheers me up to know that Philippe is still here even if just as a reader. Come back! We miss you. Paulette me-2, and these two Suricata suricatta also: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, GS-Images said: Understood John. Ok well I'll put some images here if that's ok, all of flowers/plants, and see if you're able to help at all. I hope none are ones I've posted before. These will firstly be ones I have already keyworded so are not new, and I'd like to either enhance the ID (with the cultivar) or be corrected if I have it wrong. The majority of these were identified by using an app where you pay for identifications, but after finding out that they got some wrong, I lost faith in them. I did find out some myself too. Here they are, with what I have them captioned as above each one. Dahlia hybrida, but I don't know more. Another Dahlia hybrida of a different colour. Pot Marigold (Calendula officinalis). Bellis Perennis Pomponette (Bellis Daisies). Pin-Eyed Primrose plants (Primula vulgaris). Byzantine gladiolus. Purple common foxglove (Digitalis purpurea). Gazania rigens. ......and more Gazania rigens, clearly not the same though. I just have this as a common foxglove, and have no other images to help, such as the leaves. I gave up trying to find these, so just captioned them as orange an yellow tulips. Again, I just have these as tuplip. I'll stop there for now! Thank you, Geoff OK top to bottom Dahlia cactus type - try 'Frigoulet' Dahlia cactus type - try 'Jura' Pot marigold - probably 'Indian King' Bellis - I don't think you'll improve on your caption Primula - it's a cultivated polyanthus seed strain but I don't know which one Gladiolus communis ssp. byzantinus. They never look as dark in photographs. Foxglove OK The two Gazanias are seed strains - I'd just label them as that Digitalis purpurea 'Alba' Tulips are always difficult as there are so many varieties. But they can be classified. Yours are both singles, probably single lates. That may narrow it down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, John Richmond said: OK top to bottom Dahlia cactus type - try 'Frigoulet' Dahlia cactus type - try 'Jura' Pot marigold - probably 'Indian King' Bellis - I don't think you'll improve on your caption Primula - it's a cultivated polyanthus seed strain but I don't know which one Gladiolus communis ssp. byzantinus. They never look as dark in photographs. Foxglove OK The two Gazanias are seed strains - I'd just label them as that Digitalis purpurea 'Alba' Tulips are always difficult as there are so many varieties. But they can be classified. Yours are both singles, probably single lates. That may narrow it down a bit. May I just say "wow"! and isn't Digitalis poisonous? (been forced at times to watch "Midsumer Murder") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yes, Digitalis is poisonous. Affects the heart and is used therapeutically in controlled doses. A lot of garden plants are poisonous so not a good idea to sample them without knowing what you are doing. Off topic, my wife keeps asking which ones are poisonous. Should I worry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, John Richmond said: Yes, Digitalis is poisonous. Affects the heart and is used therapeutically in controlled doses. A lot of garden plants are poisonous so not a good idea to sample them without knowing what you are doing. Off topic, my wife keeps asking which ones are poisonous. Should I worry? Does she watch Midsomer Murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Martin Carlsson said: Does she watch Midsomer Murder? Oh, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, John Richmond said: Oh, yes. Buy her flowers, chocolate and diamonds. Enjoy the weekend, stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, GS-Images said: So the Dahlia hybrida are Dahlias, but the hybrida part isn't right. I'm relieved I asked, and I'm going to have to go back through more too. I'll have to be even more careful in future, and I feel quite silly for getting so many wrong. I don't like it when others get ID's wrong, as it makes Alamy look bad (like you rightly said), yet I've been doing it myself. Geoff. Admitting mistakes takes strength, something that you have and many others don't. Perfection does not exist, but step by step we can inch closer to it, but that's also all we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, GS-Images said: So the Dahlia hybrida are Dahlias, but the hybrida part isn't right. I'm relieved I asked, and I'm going to have to go back through more too. I'll have to be even more careful in future, and I feel quite silly for getting so many wrong. I don't like it when others get ID's wrong, as it makes Alamy look bad (like you rightly said), yet I've been doing it myself. Geoff. I wouldn't worry too much about naming Dahlias as Dahlia x hybrida. The buyers won't be looking for that. They'll be looking for the type (cactus in your cases) and / or variety, It's only the species that will need the full latin name. Most of the garden dahlias were developed from hybrids that the Aztecs grew in Mexico and were already well away from the original species. The species are fascinating in their own right - but that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, GS-Images said: Shame I cannot give you more than one greenie. Geoff. We can though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I meant that the rest of us can upvote John as a thankyou for his contribution. i just have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 hours ago, hdh said: me-2, and these two Suricata suricatta also: Are we supposed to compare them? (Non-UK readers might not get that one). Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hdh Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 45 minutes ago, Inchiquin said: Are we supposed to compare them? (Non-UK readers might not get that one). Alan I may have been inaccurate :- Me too missing Philippe ... and the two meercats are also on the lookout (suppose they want to be photographed by Philippe, as he does such a good job on picturing animals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoDogue Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 12 hours ago, Martin Carlsson said: Hi everyone/someone, I've never done this before - because I'm stubborn and have issues asking for help but here goes nothing... if anyone could/would be so kind to help point me in the right direction of these "unknown" I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you in advance! I'm no expert but the bird looks like some kind of Hawk to me... not a red tailed Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 3 hours ago, GS-Images said: John - Sorry to ask again, but the Pot Marigold - Did you mean Indian Prince rather than Indian King please? Cheers, Geoff. See, I make mistakes as well! Yes, Indian Prince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Richmond Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Take the photographs anyway. You'll know more in the future and will be able to identify more of the ones you don't currently know. I've got a fair few shots of plants and insects on file where I'm just not sure of the ID. I don't upload them but keep them in mind. Often when I'm researching I'll remember a shot I've got on file that matches one of the search results. Time to dig it out and keyword. I've actually spent wet and windy today going through some of my 2014 shots and ID'd a few that I couldn't do at the time. Knowledge increases all the time, Having said that, sometimes it's pure serendipity. The plant sales area at The Garden House (we specialise in the unusual) had a delivery in on Wednesday and I recognised a plant that I'd photographed a few years back but just couldn't ID. I can now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 8 hours ago, John Richmond said: Take the photographs anyway. You'll know more in the future and will be able to identify more of the ones you don't currently know. I've got a fair few shots of plants and insects on file where I'm just not sure of the ID. I don't upload them but keep them in mind. Often when I'm researching I'll remember a shot I've got on file that matches one of the search results. Time to dig it out and keyword. I've actually spent wet and windy today going through some of my 2014 shots and ID'd a few that I couldn't do at the time. Knowledge increases all the time, Having said that, sometimes it's pure serendipity. The plant sales area at The Garden House (we specialise in the unusual) had a delivery in on Wednesday and I recognised a plant that I'd photographed a few years back but just couldn't ID. I can now. One can always upload them, tag/caption as unknown or keep it general (i.e. bee pollinating flower). I've licensed "unknowns" on what have been the action or conceptual/emotional merits. If one is worried about it hurting CTR, keep it in separate pseudo. Then whenever one has the time/inclination add detail, thus making it more and more "useful" for a wider audience. My way of doing things at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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