losdemas Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I've submitted a few news images in the last couple of days (the first for quite some time). I've noticed that they now appear as available for licensing as general stock immediately. Sorry if I've had my head in the sand, but when did this happen? Last I knew, they only went into general stock after the 48-hour news period has finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Not 100% with this but if the NEWS team do not think your images are newsworthy I believe they send them straight to QC for processing them through the normal route. Others may disagree with my comment. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Quist Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Allan Bell said: Not 100% with this but if the NEWS team do not think your images are newsworthy I believe they send them straight to QC for processing them through the normal route. Others may disagree with my comment. Allan I think you are correct about the procedure and they would come on sale, if passed, without further notice if the images have at least five keywords and a caption. Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Sorry guys, but you're missing the point - all the images that have entered general stock were accepted as news. They are all currently both on the news feed and in general stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Quist Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, losdemas said: Sorry guys, but you're missing the point - all the images that have entered general stock were accepted as news. They are all currently both on the news feed and in general stock. That is definitely new to me. Never heard of. Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Click on any news image within a particular submission and it will open as on general sale - but it won't be searchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, losdemas said: I've submitted a few news images in the last couple of days (the first for quite some time). I've noticed that they now appear as available for licensing as general stock immediately. Sorry if I've had my head in the sand, but when did this happen? Last I knew, they only went into general stock after the 48-hour news period has finished. I think I've sussed this, if you click on "Edit this image" to correct caption spellings (as I have to sometimes!) it will show as on sale if there are sufficient tags. It does not however show in stock. Tested this theory with my last news upload. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, losdemas said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Sorry misread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Sally said: Try doing it the other way. Copy and paste an Alamy ref into the stock site and see if you can find it. No, it's not. But then, as I have said, the images are not searchable - just available via the news feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Sally said: Sorry misread OK, NP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Ashmore Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I know what you mean... in my case I notice that it still takes 2 days for them to go from the Live News feed to being in stock.. but they are going live without me entering any keywords/tags... they just have the caption that I entered when I uploaded them as live news which I guess is searchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Ashmore Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, GS-Images said: All Live News images, with or without tags, are available in the STOCK database after the 48 hours even if they show NOT ON SALE due to having no tags. This is my biggest issue with the Live News system, as we don't want them all to move into stock, but we're given no choice. It makes life so much more difficult and forces us to mess about with changing captions before deleting or we'll get stacks of completely pointless views for 3 months, because the captions now have such a high search relevance. .. and this bit is new as far as I'm aware.. and like you, I don't really like it. Often I will re-edit and re-upload images so that they look better as stock. Good summary BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Quist Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I am curious: was the reason for failure that the image was too small? If so, there is something I don't understand. Some time ago the minimum size for news images was 5 Mb uncompressed, as far as I remember. This file size for news images I cannot find mentioned anywhere now. The file size for the normal stock route is 17 Mb uncompressed, and also as far as I remember, files smaller than this are automatically (partially) failed at upload and wouldn't cause a real QC failure. So, if the news images are smaller than the 17 Mb they would probably be rejected at QC and failed, if treated as normal stock. Is the size for news images now also increased to the 17 Mb? And if not officially, then in practice to avoid a size caused failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Niels Quist said: I am curious: was the reason for failure that the image was too small? If so, there is something I don't understand. Some time ago the minimum size for news images was 5 Mb uncompressed, as far as I remember. This file size for news images I cannot find mentioned anywhere now. The file size for the normal stock route is 17 Mb uncompressed, and also as far as I remember, files smaller than this are automatically (partially) failed at upload and wouldn't cause a real QC failure. So, if the news images are smaller than the 17 Mb they would probably be rejected at QC and failed, if treated as normal stock. Is the size for news images now also increased to the 17 Mb? And if not officially, then in practice to avoid a size caused failure. Sometimes the News team determine that images are not themselves newsworthy (even though the story behind them may be) and put them in the normal stock QC process, not the news to stock route that happens after 48hours. In which case they could fail for the normal QC issues including size. I had some sent into QC, they were images of a government web site that was in the news because it was failing to keep up with demand. The news teams argument was that papers etc would search for that kind of image in stock rather than from the live news feed. Only happoened once so I did not make an issue of it, I sort of understood where they were coming from even if the news story was over by the time my pics passed QC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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