Dilchaspiyaan Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I am new to Alamy and this question might have been asked before. Even after entering all the mandatory and optional information and tags, the discover-ability remains poor. What are the other ways to improve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Over 40 keywords. But just make sure they are relevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Don't worry about discoverability. It has no effect on search or sales. Frankly I think Alamy's a bit embarrassed to have included it because it's been confusing contributors all along. Most of my recent images have fewer than 30 tags (sorry Sally, not "keywords" now that they can be combined in phrases) and having close to 50 can be problematic if you want to add more in batches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I started off being quite parsimonious with keywords (now tags) but I now look daily at the at the views on my images and it is rare that I don't see a search term that could be applied to a range of images. Occasionally, it's even a Doh...... moment, how did I miss that obvious word string? The customers are always right, we need to annotate our images according to their whims. With new images I generally take a look at AOA to see where the interest lies. Just the other day I was walking through the town and spotted a new keywording possibility for an existing image, and then promptly forgot what it was - I need to carry a notepad these days! Regarding that 50 tag limit, yes it can be a real pain when selecting a group of images, but I find that I can generally consolidate some of the tags, and add new ideas. In reality we have huge scope in the new system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 16 hours ago, Bryan said: Just the other day I was walking through the town and spotted a new keywording possibility for an existing image, and then promptly forgot what it was - I need to carry a notepad these days! Or you could use a small cheapish hand held recorder. Probably easier than pencil and paper. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Allan Bell said: Or you could use a small cheapish hand held recorder. Probably easier than pencil and paper. Allan Allan, I'm a guy who uses film era manual focus lenses, and I only possess a dumbphone which is rarely switched on. Pencil and paper will be fine ......... if I can remember to pack em! Another thought, Alamy appears to be suggesting that we need to include the optional fields to improve discoverability. I added a primary category to an image and it immediately leapt into the green zone. This is easy to do, you can select huge numbers of images that fall into particular categories and make the appropriate selection. Not sure how helpful this is going to be, but, for the effort involved, maybe worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bryan said: Allan, I'm a guy who uses film era manual focus lenses, and I only possess a dumbphone which is rarely switched on. Pencil and paper will be fine ......... if I can remember to pack em! Another thought, Alamy appears to be suggesting that we need to include the optional fields to improve discoverability. I added a primary category to an image and it immediately leapt into the green zone. This is easy to do, you can select huge numbers of images that fall into particular categories and make the appropriate selection. Not sure how helpful this is going to be, but, for the effort involved, maybe worth a shot. Hi Bryan thanks for the heads up on that I will give it a try and see what happens. Allan Well I did what you suggested but nothing happened. Do we have to wait for the Alamy sweep update? ITMA Edited January 13, 2018 by Allan Bell add comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 49 minutes ago, Allan Bell said: Hi Bryan thanks for the heads up on that I will give it a try and see what happens. Allan Well I did what you suggested but nothing happened. Do we have to wait for the Alamy sweep update? ITMA I suspect that the image needs to be borderline green Allan, when the discoverability might change. I didn't have to wait, the change was instantaneous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 40 tags or more caption i copy caption to Optional : more information fill everything else in Optional goes green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Betty LaRue said: 40 tags or more caption i copy caption to Optional : more information fill everything else in Optional goes green I find it difficult to put 40 tags on my images without spamming and I do not spam. Allan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Has there been any evidence that you get more sales if you hit green? I've just been going over files in the Image Manager back as far as 2013 (lots more still to do), and I've only been able to turn a very few green, and that by adding some words which although probably relevant to the file are unlikely to be searched on. However, I'm correcting typos and separarting tags which were merged on the move to the new system. (One thing I've noticed is that if a keyword is particularly long (specifically "Royal Signals Motorcycle Display Team"), it seems that almost every time I try to make it a supertag, it merges with another keyword, even when I tried magnifying to 200% in an effort to improve accuracy. Edited January 15, 2018 by Cryptoprocta typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 14 hours ago, Allan Bell said: I find it difficult to put 40 tags on my images without spamming and I do not spam. Allan I don’t spam, either. But I use plurals and phrases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilchaspiyaan Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Thank you all for your inputs !! really appreciate your time and effort. Wish they had a keyword suggestion tool!! That would have saved a lot of time. Abhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dilchaspiyaan said: Thank you all for your inputs !! really appreciate your time and effort. Wish they had a keyword suggestion tool!! That would have saved a lot of time. Abhi There are a few on the net but I find they suggest more words that are unrelated to the images I am working on. Keeps the old grey matter working though. Allan Edited January 15, 2018 by Allan Bell computer typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Allan Bell said: There are a few on the net but I find they suggest more words that are unrelated to the images I am woking on. Keeps the old grey matter working though. Allan What did you cook in the wok besides tags, Allan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Betty LaRue said: What did you cook in the wok besides tags, Allan? AAARrrggghh!!! How do you turn off the spellchecker on the computer? Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Allan Bell said: AAARrrggghh!!! How do you turn off the spellchecker on the computer? Allan If you've typed "wok" for "work" you need to turn it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, spacecadet said: If you've typed "wok" for "work" you need to turn it on. It is happening so much now that I have to blame something. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Allan Bell said: It is happening so much now that I have to blame something. Allan The "r" key must need a clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, spacecadet said: The "r" key must need a clean. Of course the spellchecker did not correct my error, it thought I meant Woking in Surrey. Stupid thing. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Allan Bell said: Of course the spellchecker did not correct my error, it thought I meant Woking in Surrey. Stupid thing. Allan "Greymatter Woking" sounds like an old telegraphic address for the University of Surrey. I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, spacecadet said: "Greymatter Woking" sounds like an old telegraphic address for the University of Surrey. I'll get my coat. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Betty LaRue said: Our pleasure. We know how to look after a lady Edited January 15, 2018 by spacecadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, spacecadet said: Our pleasure. We know how to look after a lady I need all the laughs I can get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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