Brasilnut Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Was trying to bring the thread back into its original purpose. Stop being a party-pooper, Alamy! Anybody have any constructive stress stories to share on making it in this game? Any moments they thought about giving up...what made you not give up? In my case I didn't give up because I could see my images were being viewed and zoomed so at least someone was showing interest. Sounds silly I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultanpepa Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 If I was ever going to give a greeny it would be for that last comment. I was just sitting reading (sales floor) with my feet up and my popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelshots Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 QUOTE " Mind you, I would also have advised looking at those contributors who show little or no sales over an extended period of time (years not months). Are they worth their storage space and other overhead costs? But that's another story. " There is surely a good case for deleting accounts of people with no sales after two years of uploading images to Alamy servers. They are obviously not good stock photographers. I am not saying they are not enthusiastic or capable of creating a technically correct image....... they are not producing content that is of interest to buyers and after two years of being given the free opportunity should be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Clemson Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, Brasilnut said: Was trying to bring the thread back into its original purpose. Stop being a party-pooper, Alamy! Anybody have any constructive stress stories to share on making it in this game? Any moments they thought about giving up...what made you not give up? In my case I didn't give up because I could see my images were being viewed and zoomed so at least someone was showing interest. Sounds silly I know. The encouragement given by images being viewed and zoomed is palpable, especially when sales are few and far between. I sell video in another place where views are not logged in any way and it is so frustrating to not have any inkling on whether what I have uploaded there is attracting any interest or not. The downside it that when views and zooms (here at Alamy) fall as well as sales, it becomes rather dispiriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Quote The encouragement given by images being viewed and zoomed is palpable, especially when sales are few and far between. I sell video in another place where views are not logged in any way and it is so frustrating to not have any inkling on whether what I have uploaded there is attracting any interest or not. The downside it that when views and zooms (here at Alamy) fall as well as sales, it becomes rather dispiriting. When all hope was (almost) lost, expectations were so low that a zoom felt like a large sale at the time. Imagine going through a desert for days and finally seeing an oasis in the horizon, except most of the time it's a mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Speaking of zooms, I reached my 100 zoom today and have had 23 sales (all in the past 14 months) Don't know if that's a good zoom/sale ratio, maybe someone can shed some light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 15 hours ago, Travelshots said: QUOTE " Mind you, I would also have advised looking at those contributors who show little or no sales over an extended period of time (years not months). Are they worth their storage space and other overhead costs? But that's another story. " There is surely a good case for deleting accounts of people with no sales after two years of uploading images to Alamy servers. They are obviously not good stock photographers. I am not saying they are not enthusiastic or capable of creating a technically correct image....... they are not producing content that is of interest to buyers and after two years of being given the free opportunity should be removed. OTOH, most of what I have selling currently was uploaded more than two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Quote Why has this thread got missing messages? Party pooper Alamy locked the other one and I re-opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Quote I think I might have to open up my own forum! All talk allowed. I'll join! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 There already is one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Cryptoprocta said: OTOH, most of what I have selling currently was uploaded more than two years ago. Some photographers entering the business don't have a good grasp of what makes a good stock image. I didn't, in spite of reading books and doing whatever studying I could on the subject before joining. What I was reading was more technical (photography end) or business end, (SELLING YOUR PHOTOS) but not what kind of photos were needed. As a result, a lot of images I submitted were inappropriate. It was a learning process, and back then, the forum was pretty hostile, so I was afraid of asking questions. It was a slow realization over time for me. I dont believe tossing someone who hasn't sold in two years is the answer. We have a few people recently emerging on the forum who joined, uploaded a handful of images then went dormant for years for whatever reason. They are back now, and getting serious. And we active ones on the forum are giving of time and suggestions. Blanket solutions don't fit all. Although, I'm sure, it would fit some. I guess what I'm saying is don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Parr Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 59 minutes ago, Betty LaRue said: Some photographers entering the business don't have a good grasp of what makes a good stock image. I didn't, in spite of reading books and doing whatever studying I could on the subject before joining. What I was reading was more technical (photography end) or business end, (SELLING YOUR PHOTOS) but not what kind of photos were needed. As a result, a lot of images I submitted were inappropriate. It was a learning process, and back then, the forum was pretty hostile, so I was afraid of asking questions. It was a slow realization over time for me. I dont believe tossing someone who hasn't sold in two years is the answer. We have a few people recently emerging on the forum who joined, uploaded a handful of images then went dormant for years for whatever reason. They are back now, and getting serious. And we active ones on the forum are giving of time and suggestions. Blanket solutions don't fit all. Although, I'm sure, it would fit some. I guess what I'm saying is don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Betty I agree that a lot of the resources out there seem to talk more about learning how to take photos, or how to run the business side. It can be more difficult learning exactly how to hone your skills towards either shooting stock in general, or more specifically I am still trying to figure out how to take more editorial pictures as that seems to be what is suggested for Alamy. If you are just trying to make some money on the side it is easy to just assume that you can just upload whatever you have on your hard drive that is high quality and not have stock specifically in mind when you go out to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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