isphoto Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Ok, So we all know that the rates for images are falling but hey, we are all to blame in someway, why? Because we all use open forums where the topic of dismal pricing is openly discussed, buyers who were happy enough to pay a commercial rate for an image a few times a year, now have access to forums such as this. Result they feel shafted and then say they will only pay the lower price. We need to do a number of things, either have the Alamy forum locked to contributors only, where things can be spoken of freely or we all start plastering forums with stories about how great it is we got €200 per image for magazine feature, do this and we set the perceived market price. Think about this if your supermarket had products at one price on the shelf and then a poster on the door saying "guess what, your being shafted, we supply some customers way lower than the checkout price", how long do you think the supermarket would be in business or the queues at customer service would be seeking the heavy discounts? I have said it before, the internet is great but it is too open and drives distribution channels to the point that picture libraries are now. In reality if you asked most company owners, marketing managers how much a full page image for a brochure should be, they would not be able to tell you, but a few clicks around the forums and hey presto they know its 7-20 dollars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Has anyone ever sold a licence to Nigeria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I bet Philippe has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isphoto Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 I know there are more then one agency, and pricing will differ across markets. Its the principle of putting a positive message out to the marketplace. Big brands and Governments do it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Has anyone ever sold a licence to Nigeria? both here and elsewhere Country: Nigeria Usage: Editorial Media: Internal newsletter Industry sector: Non Profit/ Education Sub-Industry: Charities Print run: up to 10,000 Placement: Inside Image Size: 1/8 page Start: 28 January 2008 End: 04 February 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I am often skimming through U.S. published magazines looking for Alamy Credits. Nearly all who do use Alamy are also buying from other agencies as well. I would say that the other agencies get more images published per issue than Alamy and I don't think it is because Alamy does not have the image, I think it is simply cheaper to buy from the other agencies. Alamy makes the sale when it has the image that can't be found elsewhere. So as much as it pains us all that the prices are dropping, I don't think Alamy is the leading pack over the cliff, it may be other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regen Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 isphoto, on 08 Jul 2016 - 2:25 PM, said: I know there are more then one agency, and pricing will differ across markets. Its the principle of putting a positive message out to the marketplace. Big brands and Governments do it all the time. You have positive news about stock? A few days ago, I received an invitation to speak about stock photography at a meeting of Belgian and Dutch nature photographers. I declined because all I can say to them is "You all missed the boat 7-8 years ago. Nature stock is totally oversaturated and the prices hardly cover your parking meter costs." I don't think that's what they want to hear, but it's the blunt truth. I don't want to ruin their evening Cheers, Philippe 'Big brands and governments do it all the time ' and it does not have to be true - they just spin it! So perhaps we should pretend as well. Regen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Ok, So we all know that the rates for images are falling Nobody here knew that until you let the cat out of the bag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I am often skimming through U.S. published magazines looking for Alamy Credits. Nearly all who do use Alamy are also buying from other agencies as well. I would say that the other agencies get more images published per issue than Alamy and I don't think it is because Alamy does not have the image, I think it is simply cheaper to buy from the other agencies. Alamy makes the sale when it has the image that can't be found elsewhere. So as much as it pains us all that the prices are dropping, I don't think Alamy is the leading pack over the cliff, it may be other way around. Looking at my own sales on Alamy (especially repeat sellers), I'd say that you're correct, almost all the images that I license on Alamy are ones that buyers would have trouble finding elsewhere. Fortunately. I still have a few of those left in my collection. All my other images ... well that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Has anyone ever sold a licence to Nigeria? Only once since 2003 Country: Nigeria Usage: Editorial Media: Book, print and/or e-book Print run: up to 25,000 Placement: Inside Image Size: 1/8 page Start: 01 October 2015 End: 01 October 2025 Textbook – print only $ 44.74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian58 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Phillipe is right. Buyers shop around all the time and many pay hugely different prices, sometimes its really unbelievable. couple of weeks back I had exactly the same image selling in a micro for $.8, few days later same image clocked in $.640. Of course it was for a different usage but still. just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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