geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) One major drawback for me is that Photoshelter does not have nested galleries on offer for its Classic website template. Although I am probably too committed to Photoshelter to change horse midstream I am curious to know which if any of the photo hosting sites offer this feature. As an example, I want a collection or top hierarchy gallery called 'Suffolk Churches' shown as thumbnail on my homepage, I want it to be clickable to open up a list of galleries of all the Suffolk churches I have images of, (or possibly four options such as East/West/North/South Suffolk) and then each of those gallery thumbnails to be clickable to view the individual images. Does Zenfolio or Smugmug or any other offer this? I did try to answer this myself at Zenfolio but couldn't see this feature listed amongst all the others. I have contacted Photoshelter and they have made some noises about this being a future feature. Edited January 17, 2020 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Zenfolio does it...You can put galleries into Groups. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Phil Crean said: Zenfolio does it...You can put galleries into Groups. Phil Thanks Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, geogphotos said: Photoshelter does not have nested galleries on offer for its Classic website template. They do have it for two of their latest responsive templates, but I daresay that they've told you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: They do have it for two of their latest responsive templates, but I daresay that they've told you that. Yes they did tell me that but I dislike the style of those responsive templates and want to stick with the Classic one which I can easily add text to and which is not beyond my skill level. Thanks Harry. Edited January 17, 2020 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, geogphotos said: Yes they did tel me that Cheers Ian, Elements & Marquee in case anyone else is interested, I'm liking what I see of Photoshelter so far, very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: Cheers Ian, Elements & Marquee in case anyone else is interested, I'm liking what I see of Photoshelter so far, very helpful. SEO has become a big problem, but they are promising to fix it. At the moment my images are totally invisible - not so great for a website provider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: Cheers Ian, Elements & Marquee in case anyone else is interested, I'm liking what I see of Photoshelter so far, very helpful. These were the two examples that were provided. Both very nice but not right for me. I just want something more old-fashioned and straightforward where I can write some text on the homepage. Marquee: https://jaymeburrows.photoshelter.com/indexElement: https://www.darrencarroll.com/index Edited January 17, 2020 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Harry, there is a referral scheme which gives some discount if you do decide to join up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, geogphotos said: I just want something more old-fashioned and straightforward where I can write some text on the homepage. Yes, I'm sure that you have entirely different requirements and a very large archive, I'm just looking for a showcase more or less so I'm happy with Elements I think. I hope they sort your SEO out, it is one of the features that they promote so it's strange that it's broken. To someone new to Photoshelter like I am it's quite strange seeing the contrast between the older classic sites and the new responsive ones, and the link back to the 'archive' from the new sites is a little clunky. Edited January 17, 2020 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, geogphotos said: Harry, there is a referral scheme which gives some discount if you do decide to join up. Yes, I think I will be shortly but I haven't yet so I will be in touch. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: Yes, I think I will be shortly but I haven't yet so I will be in touch. Thanks. I think clicking on the 'Powered by Photoshelterr' at the bottom of the page works but don't know for sure. They do issue a code which I think gives you$10 off and $15 off my next subscription. Not much I know. www.geographyphotos.com Edited January 17, 2020 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 No, it's all worthwhile, I'll follow it up. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickfly Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 My own site was originally hosted by Zenfolio and had great gallery features. The gallery holding images could be randomised as could the sub gallery ones, so it was different images every time you browsed. I changed to Photodeck which has better licencing and sales features, plus much better SEO, but I changed the gallery setup to just a single stock gallery and have since decided it's not what I wanted, so I will be changing back to multiple galleries again soon. Overall I much prefer Photodeck... BUT, it's expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, mickfly said: My own site was originally hosted by Zenfolio and had great gallery features. The gallery holding images could be randomised as could the sub gallery ones, so it was different images every time you browsed. I changed to Photodeck which has better licencing and sales features, plus much better SEO, but I changed the gallery setup to just a single stock gallery and have since decided it's not what I wanted, so I will be changing back to multiple galleries again soon. Overall I much prefer Photodeck... BUT, it's expensive. Thanks for the information Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickfly Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Top Cashback are offering 39% for Zenfolio online purchase of a pro subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 17/01/2020 at 14:50, geogphotos said: Thanks Phil Yes, if you want to see what it could look like have a look at my Zenfolio-powered website. www.sallyanderson.co.uk Happy to offer a discount referral code to anyone who wants to sign up with Zenfolio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) From dialogue with Photoshelter it seems that I really don't have much choice but to move to one of the 'Responsive' templates. They are doing a lot of development work and not surprisingly that is focused on the most modern parts of the site rather than the older bits. So I have made a tentative start today using the Element template. I have one nested Collection in the galleries section called 'Suffolk churches' - just a start. There is a lot of work to do creating more galleries and writing gallery descriptions. Also merging galleries together into collections so that it is all a bit neater and organised. Haven't yet figured out how to link with my Blog - as was said elsewhere they integrate with Wordpress.org but not Wordpress.com - there must be a way of just setting up a simple link but have done enough for today. www.geographyphotos.com Don't expect too much. Edited January 25, 2020 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, geogphotos said: So I have made a tentative start today using the Element template. Looking good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: Looking good to me You are kind. Looks c rap to me! Especially that the featured gallery doesn't show captions for each image. That's why I am only having one. I expect I'll make a new featured gallery and have it as a portfolio of varied pics. To me these all seems to be too much about style over content, with photos taking over too much and causing confusion. Anyway, as I say, no real choice. Edited January 25, 2020 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, geogphotos said: From dialogue with Photoshelter it seems that I really don't have much choice but to move to one of the 'Responsive' templates. They are doing a lot of development work and not surprisingly that is focused on the most modern parts of the site rather than the older bits. So I have made a tentative start today using the Element template. I have one nested Collection in the galleries section called 'Suffolk churches' - just a start. There is a lot of work to do creating more galleries and writing gallery descriptions. Also merging galleries together into collections so that it is all a bit neater and organised. Haven't yet figured out how to link with my Blog - as was said elsewhere they integrate with Wordpress.org but not Wordpress.com - there must be a way of just setting up a simple link but have done enough for today. www.geographyphotos.com Don't expect too much. I like the looks of that. My PS website is in need of an entire overhaul, but I've been procrastinating. I've also been reluctant to try the new templates. However, you're spurring me on. At this point, I don't have much to lose. Edited January 25, 2020 by John Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Ian, I notice that you don't have the e-commerce option on your PS website. Any reason for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, John Mitchell said: Ian, I notice that you don't have the e-commerce option on your PS website. Any reason for that? I should have that. You mean the ability to purchase downloads. I've done a sort of ersatz simplified RM editorial deal using their RF label ( because I don't know how to change it) and find the normal RM calculator wildly over-priced. It should be £25 for editorial commercial use ( at the moment - it's all a mess) But you will only come across this if you go the Galleries. There's an 'Add to Cart' option when you view a single image. Edited January 25, 2020 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, geogphotos said: Especially that the featured gallery doesn't show captions for each image You can have captions but I guess you know that, two separate fields as I remember. Have you considered discreet watermarks, that seems quite easy to implement in PS, a feature that I like and may use. The two videos, 102 & 202, here, explain a great deal. ...also the video on Joe McNally uses Elements, though his site is now 'East' I think. Edited January 25, 2020 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, geogphotos said: I should have that. You mean the ability to purchase downloads. I've done a sort of ersatz simplified RM editorial deal using their RF label ( because I don't know how to change it) and find the normal RM calculator wildly over-priced. It should be £25 for commercial use ( at the moment - its all a mess) Yes, that's what I mean. I've set my prices at 40% of the fotoquote prices, which seems pretty much in line with today's pricing. Not that it makes much difference these days. I agree that the new templates are all about eye-candy rather than usefulness. Sign of the times I suppose. I've neglected my PS site for quite some time now while I hum and haw about whether or not it's worth the cost any longer. Still not sure that it is... Edited January 25, 2020 by John Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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