SShep Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Is everyone else finding that the DACS Payback 2019 site is temporarily closed due to 'unforeseen technical issues'? I've been getting this message for a few days now. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yes. I filled in the form straight after getting the email saying Payback was open on Monday and couldn't get ISSN numbers recognised. Customer Services told me there were some problems and a few hours later they shut it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShep Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Thanks Mark. Didn't want to think it was just me sitting about waiting! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Kirby Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 You have until 18 February to submit publication history form and 26 April to submit payback claim form. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyAppleRed Images Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I had trouble with the ISSN/ISBNs as well - I had to add a new one as I changed bands for magazines so I replaced my older ones and it kept saying the ISSNs were incorrect. I finally managed to get three in there, but then it started complaining about my book ISBNs. They have all three been in there since I started DACS a few years ago, one with the ISBN straight out of the book and the other two as "Alamy Sale". The only way I could get them in in the end was to take out the dashes and leave the 13 character number. It took a while, but I got there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, LawrensonPhoto said: Someone may know this: I currently let Alamy sort out my DACS payments. Usually magazines. If I sell a couple of images through another agency that specialises in book covers. How do I claim for these? Do I just claim direct? I don't think you can. The Payback contract requires you to appoint DACS as sole agent. https://www.dacs.org.uk/for-artists/payback/membership/terms-and-conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 2019 will be the first year that I take DACS 'seriously' given that the amount should be worth claiming. I wasn't even aware of it until I joined Alamy, and the amounts I was getting from Alamy up until 2017 didn't spur me to act. 2018's amount being more significant has changed that. I've been contributing directly to magazines and books as a hobbyist for around twenty years so it'll be worth my time going through my shelves and tears to list them out as a direct claim, but leave Alamy to deal with the information they have locked in their vaults. 17 hours ago, spacecadet said: I don't think you can. The Payback contract requires you to appoint DACS as sole agent. https://www.dacs.org.uk/for-artists/payback/membership/terms-and-conditions Quote FAQs What happens if I apply for royalties directly as well as through a picture library? Claiming Payback royalties through multiple sources can have a detrimental effect on all Payback members as it can lead to cases where an individual receives a proportionally greater share of Payback royalties than they would making a single claim of their own or through an agent. If at the close of the Payback submission period you have more than one Payback claim submitted and they exceed the maximum level which one publication claim would reach, then DACS will proportionately reduce these claims. Close of campaign After proportional reduction J Smith, Direct Claim 120 108 J Smith, Picture Library Claim144 132 Total Points 264 240 EXAMPLE Maximum publication points: 240 Ignoring the subtext, it would appear to be OK to have claims from an agency and yourself. The exclusivity on the t&c link would apply just to an individual image would it not, rather than your whole content? Edited January 18, 2019 by Avpics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 The site is back up now. Beware of the 20-minute logout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 17/01/2019 at 10:44, spacecadet said: .....and couldn't get ISSN numbers recognised I've managed to enter and save my very first entry, but subsequent attempts to add further titles are just buffering. I don't know whether it's my end or theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gillis Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, Avpics said: I've managed to enter and save my very first entry, but subsequent attempts to add further titles are just buffering. I don't know whether it's my end or theirs. Exactly my experience too. I've emailed DACS. Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I've just made my DACS submission. I noticed on the publication history webform that DACS didn't "find" the Titles for about 1/3rd of the ISBN and ISSNs I entered and so I had to fill the title in manually. It was the same last last year. I'm pretty sure I've got the right/valid ISSN/ISBNs but it seems they aren't in the DACS database. Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Yes. The message assures me that it's valid though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 18/01/2019 at 13:03, spacecadet said: The site is back up now. Beware of the 20-minute logout. Seems to be down again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 It's been working this morning and I've finished my submission. Very surprised at the total number of images at 489. Having torn out the pages from the magazines over the last twenty years or so it was the work involved in tracing the correct ISSN numbers which had put me off doing it before, but I had no idea of the quantity. It's taken a lot of time and effort but glad to have it done and submitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Avpics said: It's been working this morning and I've finished my submission. Very surprised at the total number of images at 489. Having torn out the pages from the magazines over the last twenty years or so it was the work involved in tracing the correct ISSN numbers which had put me off doing it before, but I had no idea of the quantity. It's taken a lot of time and effort but glad to have it done and submitted. Ooh, just realised I have a few old tear sheets. I don't think they'd get me into a higher category though. They're a couple of orders of magnitude fewer than yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Oh Gawd, please tell me that I'm not the only (slow, lazy) idiot on Earth! Just went to DACS to submit my publication history, knowing that the cut-off date was today, and see that "Publication History submissions have now closed." Nooooooo! I've been working on Internet Time for at least fifteen years and presumed that i had until midnight to submit my claim. It appears not C'est la Vie, (say the old folks). Bugger, say I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 18/02/2019 at 22:02, losdemas said: Just went to DACS to submit my publication history, knowing that the cut-off date was today, and see that "Publication History submissions have now closed." Nooooooo! I've been working on Internet Time for at least fifteen years and presumed that i had until midnight to submit my claim. It appears not that caught out a lot of people.... km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Clemson Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just thought people might like a heads-up that the final day for DACS Payback claim for 2018 is tomorrow (26th April 2019). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Joseph Clemson said: Just thought people might like a heads-up that the final day for DACS Payback claim for 2018 is tomorrow (26th April 2019). At 5PM! (UK BST time) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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