IanDavidson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Does anyone else on here cover London Fashion Week? I have applied for accreditation again (my 4th year) but always debate on if I should do this. It costs £65 to register (and there are two lfw's per year) but there is no guarantee of getting in to shows as many of them are invite only. I also apply to Fashion Scout that runs along side had actually has more interesting shows/Celebrities. https://www.iandavidsonphotography.com/london-fashion-week-2017-ss18 I do not sell a great number of photographs - I guess the specialist photographers have this market well covered. I also cover the demonstrations that take place outside as well as the Fashionistas who try to show off their designs outside the event venues. https://www.iandavidsonphotography.com/single-post/2017/09/26/Beauty-and-the-Beast-–-London-Fashion-Week-September-2017 It is good fun, if stressful and highly competitive - and I am not sure it makes financial sense..... What do y9ou think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeCee Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, IanDavidson said: Does anyone else on here cover London Fashion Week? I have applied for accreditation again (my 4th year) but always debate on if I should do this. It costs £65 to register (and there are two lfw's per year) but there is no guarantee of getting in to shows as many of them are invite only. I also apply to Fashion Scout that runs along side had actually has more interesting shows/Celebrities. https://www.iandavidsonphotography.com/london-fashion-week-2017-ss18 I do not sell a great number of photographs - I guess the specialist photographers have this market well covered. I also cover the demonstrations that take place outside as well as the Fashionistas who try to show off their designs outside the event venues. https://www.iandavidsonphotography.com/single-post/2017/09/26/Beauty-and-the-Beast-–-London-Fashion-Week-September-2017 It is good fun, if stressful and highly competitive - and I am not sure it makes financial sense..... What do y9ou think? If your primary interest is making money, and that isn't happening, (even covering registration fees) - I guess you've answered your own question. However, if you enjoy doing it, and profit's not the main objective - why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Ashmore Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, TeeCee said: If your primary interest is making money, and that isn't happening, (even covering registration fees) - I guess you've answered your own question. However, if you enjoy doing it, and profit's not the main objective - why not? Absolutely, 100% agree with this! And I think for many of us, it can be applied to stock photography generally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Most pics that actually sell are those of celebrities attending. If you go to the big shows or Fashion Scout, you might be able to catch some. Even if you hang out outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 18 hours ago, funkyworm said: Maybe I am cynical. But I notice that the fun factor often diminishes with the idea that I am working hard covering an event where I anticipate little or no returns, and so I try and avoid such possibilities, picking my battles. Lets not forget its not just the work of pressing the shutter. If I cover a football game I reckon I am looking at about ten hours of work. I have spoken to agency colleagues who reckon about the same. I agree. Most sports fans would find shooting their favourite sport very disheartening because you don't get to watch it. My son was a very good sportsman and when I was at his games (rugby, football and especially basketball) I could either photograph it (and find out what happened later) or watch and enjoy the game live! As you say, it is not just the event itself, it is all that time in front of a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeCee Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 22/01/2018 at 23:03, funkyworm said: Maybe I am cynical. But I notice that the fun factor often diminishes with the idea that I am working hard covering an event where I anticipate little or no returns, and so I try and avoid such possibilities, picking my battles. Lets not forget its not just the work of pressing the shutter. If I cover a football game I reckon I am looking at about ten hours of work. I have spoken to agency colleagues who reckon about the same. Think this points up the difference between commercial work/commissioned editorial work and stock For a living, someone books me, I shoot it, they pay me. The world of stock is very different, as it's entirely speculative. No-one books you, you shoot it anyway, you may (p'raps) sell something and get paid. If you're doing something speculative, you might as well shoot stuff that you enjoy doing, be that sport/fashion/music gigs etc etc. My main choice for stock is a walk along the seafront here, but I'm an extremely boring bloke indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andremichel Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 22:57, Matt Ashmore said: Absolutely, 100% agree with this! And I think for many of us, it can be applied to stock photography generally! Thats one reason that the stock industry is in the poor state it currently is. Too many photographers willing to work at a loss because they "enjoy it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeCee Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 6 hours ago, andremichel said: deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Ashmore Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 hours ago, andremichel said: Thats one reason that the stock industry is in the poor state it currently is. Too many photographers willing to work at a loss because they "enjoy it". I can't argue against that point! Unfortunately that horse has bolted and shutting the stable door now won't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nacke Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I have to disagree with a lot of what is written here. I was a news agency photographer for decades and early on I would only shoot stories after my agency got a magazine assignment for me. Then I realized that we could make much more money shooting stories that my agency would sell or license over and over to the magazines worldwide. Keep in mind that if you are working on assignment for a publication there is an embargo period where you cannot license images shot while on assignment. Alamy now licenses images every month that I shot on my own dime and time. While most of the major News Photo Agencies are gone, I’ve been impressed with Alamy Live News. I also disagree with the statement that : “Thats one reason that the stock industry is in the poor state it currently is. Too many photographers willing to work at a loss because they "enjoy it".” There have always been people who give their images away because they just want to see their name in print. The first problem with “the stock industry” are agencies or libraries that have not held licensing prices and micro stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeCee Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 28/01/2018 at 22:52, Chuck Nacke said: I have to disagree with a lot of what is written here. I was a news agency photographer for decades and early on I would only shoot stories after my agency got a magazine assignment for me. Then I realized that we could make much more money shooting stories that my agency would sell or license over and over to the magazines worldwide. Keep in mind that if you are working on assignment for a publication there is an embargo period where you cannot license images shot while on assignment. Alamy now licenses images every month that I shot on my own dime and time. While most of the major News Photo Agencies are gone, I’ve been impressed with Alamy Live News. I also disagree with the statement that : “Thats one reason that the stock industry is in the poor state it currently is. Too many photographers willing to work at a loss because they "enjoy it".” There have always been people who give their images away because they just want to see their name in print. The first problem with “the stock industry” are agencies or libraries that have not held licensing prices and micro stock. Absolutely agree with every word Chuck! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nacke Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Thanks Tony, Really like your old (God, I hate saying that) motorcycle B & W's Like a lot of you "file" images, Steve Baker was my neighbor in Bellingham, WA, USA in the 80's. I wish Alamy would put more into promoting some of the great historical images that Alamy has. Just remember my motto: "Old age and Treachery always wins over youth and impruousness" Best, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanDavidson Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Thanks for the comments; as you suggested, I thought I would give it another try. Just preparing the kit.... https://www.iandavidsonphotography.com/london-fashion-week-2017-ss18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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