Duplicate images

[Murad RM]

Just came this 2 duplicate images from different sources as I was searching for images of Salmon dishes.

 

Image ID : E6APKH and CXG2FP

 

Anyone else found any more like this? just wondering how common it is

[Marianne]

It looks like the same photographer is with Zoonar and they have submitted it to Alamy as a distributor. The other agencies I'm with either require exclusivity so this doesn't happen, or require you to opt out of certain distributors if you supply them directly. I'm not with Zoonar so I don't know their process. No idea how often this happens but that's probably a failure to remove the item from distributors is probably the explanation for why this happened. 

[John Mitchell]

No doubt this happens more than we think. Not Alamy's fault, of course.

 

Zoonar does have Alamy as a distributor option, but better not get me started on Z ...

Edited October 10, 2015 by John Mitchell

[Bryan]

I've noticed this several times while searching for images in the media. Agree that some kind of distribution deal is probably responsible.

[punkmuffin]

They are slightly different images one is more saturated than the other maybe this was the intention !

[John Mitchell]

They are slightly different images one is more saturated than the other maybe this was the intention !

 

Perhaps, but they are from two different suppliers. Also, buyers can easily adjust saturation and probably often do. Even the middlemen have middlemen now. I'm amazed at how agencies keep track of what is submitted where and by whom. It has all become very complicated indeed.

[Murad RM]

True! all seems a bit too complicated.

[flavio massari]

I found these duplicate images, coming from two  different agencies:

RX9H0K   and  RX6BH7 

Problem is that both images are both in strong rank position in the page, and that hurt my and other contributors position, slipping down in the bottom of pages.ts

Don't have Alamy any way to reduce duplicate contents?

Now that search by image is a mature technology (yet available in shutterstock) can be useful to reduce tha number of contents to gain a best performance with customer and contributors. What you think about?

[Bryan]

1 hour ago, flavio massari said:

I found these duplicate images, coming from two  different agencies:

RX9H0K   and  RX6BH7 

Problem is that both images are both in strong rank position in the page, and that hurt my and other contributors position, slipping down in the bottom of pages.ts

Don't have Alamy any way to reduce duplicate contents?

Now that search by image is a mature technology (yet available in shutterstock) can be useful to reduce tha number of contents to gain a best performance with customer and contributors. What you think about?

 

Understand your frustration Flavio, but I suspect that the number of duplicate images is fairly small alongside the many millions of photos available.

 

[sb photos]

2 hours ago, flavio massari said:

I found these duplicate images, coming from two  different agencies:

RX9H0K   and  RX6BH7 

Problem is that both images are both in strong rank position in the page, and that hurt my and other contributors position, slipping down in the bottom of pages.ts

Don't have Alamy any way to reduce duplicate contents?

Now that search by image is a mature technology (yet available in shutterstock) can be useful to reduce tha number of contents to gain a best performance with customer and contributors. What you think about?

 

Here it seems the photographer submitted  to SOPA, then SOPA submitted to ZUMA, then both to Alamy. I suspect this is common with non exclusive images. I pity the poor Greek photographer if the image sells via SOPA/ZUMA/Alamy, they would receive a pittance. Re earlier mention of ranking, I wonder if deals are done with contributors/agencies that give their images higher rankings. I know this happened in the past re specialised collections or libraries.

Edited November 2, 2019 by sb photos

[flavio massari]

4 hours ago, Bryan said:

but I suspect that the number of duplicate images is fairly small alongside the many millions of photos available

 

Yes, that can be true, but surely the sub-agency have higher CTR, due to tighter selection,  so their relatively small collections will stay upper on single contributors photos

[Bill Brooks]

One way to prevent this duplication, and eliminate the subagents cut, would be to have images exclusive to Alamy. This is probably why Alamy photographers are given the option.

 

The other problem not mentioned is Alamy collecting on stolen copyright for images not in the public domain. It becomes almost impossible if they are all over multiple sites. Another reason to be image exclusive to Alamy.

 

The term is image exclusive so you could have different images with a different agency. Just not the same images.

[flavio massari]

12 minutes ago, Bill Brooks said:

One way to prevent this duplication, and eliminate the subagents cut, would be to have images exclusive to Alamy. This is probably why Alamy photographers are given the option.

This is an interesting point, but not the point I wanted to talk about.

The point is that in the result page the customer find duplicate contents coming from sub-agencies in the first positions. Maybe is time for Alamy to narrow the contents they accept from sub-agencies? How can be avoided  this dilution in the SERP?