Ed Rooney Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Good morning, Forum folks. I hope you are Covid-free and well, wherever you are. I have yet another digital puzzle to solve. Hopefully, someone will have a useful suggestion. I have Adobe CC on my basic M1 MacBook Air. My edit goes from LrC to Ps. In PhotoShop, my edit keeps getting interrupted by a message that tells me I'm out of disk space. I have been able to 'solve' this problem by deleting some images and restarting my Mac. Then in awhile, I get the error message again. I'm afraid to upload a large amount of images. Any solution ideas? Edo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognyan Yosifov Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Edo, you need to check your settings at Photoshop - Edit - Preferences. Your problem could be something related to scratch discs, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes, the warnings say 'scratch discs.' But what do I do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 But could you be running out of disc space? What does Get Info on your hard drive tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes, the warnings say I'm out of 'scratch discs space.' The question is what do I do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognyan Yosifov Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Yes, the warnings say 'scratch discs.' But what do I do about it? There's a lot of information on Google, Edo. As I know you could try to clean up the disc, related to PS performance. For example, to empty the Recycle bin or, if you have more than one disc on your Mac, you can change the PS scratch disc performance to a less full one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Yes, the warnings say I'm out of 'scratch discs space.' The question is what do I do about it? I was really meaning how much of your hard drive have you filled up, could it be near capacity? What size hard drive do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Myford Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 PS uses space on the hard drive as additional memory when processing images, so you need to keep some space free. Ideally the internal drive should only hold system and program files, and whatever you're working on at the moment. Data storage should be on external drives, or a secondary internal, preferably with multiple redundancy. If you tell PS to use a smaller scratch disc, it could get very slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) In the Finder menu click on 'Go' and then 'Computer', then 'Get info' on Macintosh HD, it will tell you the size and how much is available. Edited February 1, 2023 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 First thing to do is to get an external solid state drive as you risk crashing your computer and losing data. I recommend a SanDisk SSD. These are tiny. I know you said you have problems with Amazon deliveries but get an external SSD asap however you do it (Argos?). When you have it post again and help will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 I have 2 stand alone Western Digital hard drives that I have been saving snaps on. And there is an Argos nearby. I'm checking on everything everyone told me. Got to go out now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) The WD hard drives would be ok for storage and backup but not ideal as working drives as they are too slow. A fast SSD like the one I linked to would be much better. Then work in the way that DJ Myford suggests ( the way I work as well - images on fast external SSD - these SSDs are so fast that it is not necesssary to work from the internal drive at all but might be more convenient rather than having the SSD permanently connected. I would suggest getting as much data as possible off the internal drive and copied onto the external SSD. Purge any cache left by Photoshop as well (Edit menu -Purge). It would be worth running First Aid in Disk Utility in case nearly filling the internal drive has caused any problems. The reason Photoshop needs to use scratch disk is because it has not got enough RAM to work with (the 8GB is pushing it as previously mentioned). Best to work on one file at a time and have no other apps open if possible). Edited February 1, 2023 by MDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, MDM said: The WD hard drives would be ok for storage and backup but not ideal as working drives as they are too slow. A fast SSD like the one I linked to would be much better. Then work in the way that DJ Myford suggests ( the way I work as well - images on fast external SSD - these SSDs are so fast that it is not necesssary to work from the internal drive at all but might be more convenient rather than having the SSD permanently connected. I would suggest getting as much data as possible off the internal drive and copied onto the external SSD. Purge any cache left by Photoshop as well (Edit menu -Purge). It would be worth running First Aid in Disk Utility in case nearly filling the internal drive has caused any problems. The reason Photoshop needs to use scratch disk is because it has not got enough RAM to work with (the 8GB is pushing it as previously mentioned). Best to work on one file at a time and have no other apps open if possible). Wow! Sometimes it's not good being an old guy from the 20th century and a dummkopf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Photoshop is a memory hog. I don't run Lightroom, so not sure how much RAM it hogs as well. I run with 32 gigs of RAM. When I built the computer I only put in 16 gigs as both my sons told me I would never need any more than that. Shouldn't have listened to them. I'd be running Photoshop and Illustrator at the same time, (along with other memory hog programs) and at 16 GB of RAM PS would start to crawl. Went out and got 32 GB and now everything runs smooth as glass. When I check my resource manager, quite often PS will be hording 12 GB of RAM all by itself. RAM is king. Jill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Jill Morgan said: Photoshop is a memory hog. I don't run Lightroom, so not sure how much RAM it hogs as well. I run with 32 gigs of RAM. When I built the computer I only put in 16 gigs as both my sons told me I would never need any more than that. Shouldn't have listened to them. I'd be running Photoshop and Illustrator at the same time, (along with other memory hog programs) and at 16 GB of RAM PS would start to crawl. Went out and got 32 GB and now everything runs smooth as glass. When I check my resource manager, quite often PS will be hording 12 GB of RAM all by itself. RAM is king. Jill I recall advising you at the time you were building that PC to get more RAM - you should have listened 😀. My philosophy is to always get twice as much memory (CPU and GPU) as I think I will ever need over the expected lifetime of the computer. This is vitally important in the Mac world now as most of the new Macs cannot be upgraded at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, MDM said: I recall advising you at the time you were building that PC to get more RAM - you should have listened 😀. My philosophy is to always get twice as much memory (CPU and GPU) as I think I will ever need over the expected lifetime of the computer. This is vitally important in the Mac world now as most of the new Macs cannot be upgraded at all. Never listen to one's children. The 32 works great. Next time I build one, I might go for the 64 GB, as every time Adobe adds features, PS gets more and more bloated. I use almost all the features of PS, so that is fine with me. RAM is so cheap now, it's not as much of an issue. I'd never want a computer I couldn't upgrade or add to. Thinking of putting in a more powerful GPU in the next year. Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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