Ed Rooney Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I have an image of an ancient drinking fountain in Rome that has S P A carved in it that I need to keyword. Now we all know what S P Q R mean, but . . . S P A? I know about the town/area of Belgium, Spa. It was a famous bath location in Roman times, whose name may have come from the Latin word “spagere” meaning “to scatter, sprinkle or moisten.” But I'm on thin ice with that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I used to be a Latin scholar but that was 50 years ago. Any idea of the age of the fountain? If it's from the Christian era I'm wondering if it could have been dedicated to Sanctus Petrus Apostolus? Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Could it be this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 It's a carved marble ancient drinking fountain on the Via della Conciliazione. I can post the image tomorrow if everything passes QC. [Wrong! It turned out to have been built in 1605 to 1621] This is not one of the many nasoni, the newer drinking fountains. It predates Italian. [Wrong again!] I lived in Rome and speak Roman Italian. This defiantly dates back to the BC/AD time, give or take a few hundred years [How could I be so wrong?]. Thanks, Alan and John. I'll look up Saint Peter. This is what comes of multitasking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterjones Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 A 30 second Google search confirmed this: SPA= Sanus per Aquam translated as Health through Water. As a word spa could be derived from the Latin "spargere" to scatter, sprinkle or moisten" I frequently use the search engines for my keywording if I am unsure. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yeah, that sounds good, Peter, probably better than having to do with Saint Peter. But I think it means "holy water." Both the Jesuits and the Franciscan monks tried to teach me Latin. They would be happy I recall that one word. Oh, sorry . . . I dropped a 'T' in there. (Hmm. 30 seconds on Google . . . while I called two Roman friends, one in Rome who lives near that fountain -- sporco miseria!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastrega Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Googled the street name and fountain..... Is this it? http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hp1jhPwR8zcC&pg=PA321&lpg=PA321&dq=via+della+Conciliazione+fountain&source=bl&ots=WhHENfJVfQ&sig=bhEzN9gW2MucbqIdMe9OEzagm3Y&hl=en&sa=X&ei=spgpVO2qNoHKaN_IgvAF&ved=0CEIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=via%20della%20Conciliazione%20fountain&f=false Sorry about the mad link length... Says sacro palazzo apostolico in that book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yeah, that sounds good, Peter, probably better than having to do with Saint Peter. But I think it means "holy water." Both the Jesuits and the Franciscan monks tried to teach me Latin. They would be happy I recall that one word. I didn't get beyond grade nine in Latin, but isn't sanctus the Latin word for "holy," as in sanctimonious (holier than thou)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yep, that's the fountain -- thanks! Yeah, I'm not helping anything with my misspelling, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Knight Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Ed, try this The abbreviation SPQR means, in English, the Senate and the Roman people (or the Senate and the people of Rome), but what exactly those four letters (S, P, Q, and R) stand for -- in Latin -- is a little less clear. My take is that SPQR stands for the first letters of the following words with "-que" added as the third: Senatus Populus que Romanus. I hope this helps a bit Regards Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastrega Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 You are welcome. Extremely jealous that you speak Italian, I am just learning. Seems I am learning a lot of stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 So . . . as it turns out, it's Italian (or Latin) and dates from 1605-1621, when Paolo Borghese was Pope. It stands for Sacro Palazzo Apostolico, referring to the building it's attached to. Thank you all for the many varied and colorful translations. Next we should try to discover the true origin of the term "Mafia." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Watkins Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 So it's not "Snap -> Photo -> Alamy" then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ed, try this The abbreviation SPQR means, in English, the Senate and the Roman people (or the Senate and the people of Rome), but what exactly those four letters (S, P, Q, and R) stand for -- in Latin -- is a little less clear. My take is that SPQR stands for the first letters of the following words with "-que" added as the third: Senatus Populus que Romanus. I hope this helps a bit Regards Mal I fear you didn't read my original post fully, Mel. S P A is what I was in need of a meaning for. As I said, I lived in Rome, and anyone who has lived in Rome understands what SPQR means in Latin, Italian and English. But I thank you for your answer. Ciao, Edo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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