Red vine ID

[John Mitchell]

Does anyone know what the red vine in this image is? I'm thinking it might be some kind of ornamental grape, but that's just a guess. The green stuff is ivy, I know. Thanks in advance. The picture was taken in the fall (October).

 

Edited February 1 by John Mitchell

[sooth]

32 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

Does anyone know what the red vine in this image is? I'm thinking it might be some kind of ornamental grape, but that's just a guess. The green stuff is ivy, I know. Thanks in advance. The picture was taken in the fall (October).

 

It's either Virginia Creeper Parthenocissus quinquefolia, or Woodbine (false Virginia Creeper) P. inserta. One way to tell is look at leaf stalks, one is hairy (Virginia creeper), other is smooth (woodbine); alamy comp photo is too low rez to see any fine detail.

 

 

See notes on this link on how to distinguish btwn two https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/shrub/woodbine

 

 

Edited February 1 by sooth

[John Mitchell]

10 hours ago, sooth said:

It's either Virginia Creeper Parthenocissus quinquefolia, or Woodbine (false Virginia Creeper) P. inserta. One way to tell is look at leaf stalks, one is hairy (Virginia creeper), other is smooth (woodbine); alamy comp photo is too low rez to see any fine detail.

 

 

See notes on this link on how to distinguish btwn two https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/shrub/woodbine

 

 

 

Thanks very much. Fortunately, this vine grows in my back yard, so I'll be able to easily have a closer look at it.

[John Mitchell]

14 hours ago, sooth said:

It's either Virginia Creeper Parthenocissus quinquefolia, or Woodbine (false Virginia Creeper) P. inserta. One way to tell is look at leaf stalks, one is hairy (Virginia creeper), other is smooth (woodbine); alamy comp photo is too low rez to see any fine detail.

 

 

See notes on this link on how to distinguish btwn two https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/shrub/woodbine

 

 

 

UPDATE: Just checked the vine and unfortunately all the leaves are long gone. Looking at the original image at 100%, the leaf stalks look smooth, so I'm guessing it is woodbine. Not sure, though, as this vine seems to "sprawl" (creep) horizontally rather than climb vertically. 

 

[Betty LaRue]

It doesn’t look hairy to me. The stalk looks smooth.

I have one image of Virginia Creeper not so nice as your image, rather bug eaten, but it was in a park with a metal identification label in front of it. I can’t say the stalks look hairy, but rougher. And it is creeping along the ground.

Edited February 2 by Betty LaRue

[John Mitchell]

1 hour ago, Betty LaRue said:

It doesn’t look hairy to me. The stalk looks smooth.

I have one image of Virginia Creeper not so nice as your image, rather bug eaten, but it was in a park with a metal identification label in front of it. I can’t say the stalks look hairy, but rougher. And it is creeping along the ground.

 

Thanks, Betty. So you're thinking that mine could be Woodbine because the stalks look smoother than your Virginia Creeper's?

[Betty LaRue]

18 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Thanks, Betty. So you're thinking that mine could be Woodbine because the stalks look smoother than your Virginia Creeper's?

Somewhat, but mostly the slimmer look of the leaves in yours and the more off-the-ground growth habit. Not that I know about the plant. My image was the first time I knowingly saw it where it was identified. I’m not sure if the “creeper” part of the name means it creeps along the ground or not. 

[John Mitchell]

5 hours ago, Betty LaRue said:

Somewhat, but mostly the slimmer look of the leaves in yours and the more off-the-ground growth habit. Not that I know about the plant. My image was the first time I knowingly saw it where it was identified. I’m not sure if the “creeper” part of the name means it creeps along the ground or not. 

 

Jeepers Creepers, I'm not sure what to do now. 😕

[John Mitchell]

Thanks very much, everyone, for the helpful feedback. After much prowling around on the Web, I decided to go with Woodbine (Parthenocissus inserta). However, I'm also going to put "Virginia Creeper" in the keywords as it seems that people often lump the two species together.

[Ed Rooney]

 

I've not seen that red thing at the supermarket, so don't put any in a salad. 🤔

[Allan Bell]

18 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

Thanks very much, everyone, for the helpful feedback. After much prowling around on the Web, I decided to go with Woodbine (Parthenocissus inserta). However, I'm also going to put "Virginia Creeper" in the keywords as it seems that people often lump the two species together.

 

Put both names in the keywords and let the buyer choose.

 

Just joking.

 

Allan

 

[John Mitchell]

6 hours ago, Allan Bell said:

 

Put both names in the keywords and let the buyer choose.

 

Just joking.

 

Allan

 

 

Exactly. Great minds think alike... 😉