Randy M Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Rights Managed Country: Slovak Republic Usage: Editorial Media: Magazine - print, digital and electronic Print run: up to 10,000 Placement: Inside Image Size: 1/4 page Start: 01 February 2015 End: 01 February 2020 Duration: 1 month. $ 8.90 Total sales $8.90 16 March 2015 Sale CTDHFA Sale 8.90 16 March 2015 Alamy Distribution Commission CTDHFA 30% 2.67 16 March 2015 Distributor Commission CTDHFA 40% Distributor Commission 3.56 My payment: $2.67 I just read the other thread about Alamy Microstock and I believe this takes the cake! And why is Alamy double-dipping on the commission? For a whopping whole $2.67 cents, almost a slap in the face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokie Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Rights Managed Country: Slovak Republic Usage: Editorial Media: Magazine - print, digital and electronic Print run: up to 10,000 Placement: Inside Image Size: 1/4 page Start: 01 February 2015 End: 01 February 2020 Duration: 1 month. $ 8.90 Total sales $8.90 16 March 2015 Sale CTDHFA Sale 8.90 16 March 2015 Alamy Distribution Commission CTDHFA 30% 2.67 16 March 2015 Distributor Commission CTDHFA 40% Distributor Commission 3.56 My payment: $2.67 I just read the other thread about Alamy Microstock and I believe this takes the cake! And why is Alamy double-dipping on the commission? For a whopping whole $2.67 cents, almost a slap in the face! Because it's a sale through one of Alamy's distributors. Alamy get 30% Distributor gets 40%(!) .....and you get 30% John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 ^ Stokie's got it. When you sign up for distribution, that's part of the deal. You can opt out of individual countries or territories - or completely - each April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstw Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 It's more than a slap in the face. It's like two people running up to you and kicking you where it hurts. One person does it 10% harder than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 At another crowd-sourced news based library the photographer gets 50% whatever and the library and reseller split the other 50% which is I think right and proper way to do it. That library has other issues though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstw Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 It's more than a slap in the face. It's like two people running up to you and kicking you where it hurts. One person does it 10% harder than the other. No, it isn't! If it weren't for that distributor, you didn't had any sale at all. What do you expect? That he works and looks for clients for free? Bear in mind that at other agencies, the middlemen each take 50% I'm not bothered by these low sales (Slovak Republic simply doesn't handle the same prices as in the UK or France or Germany), I see them as extras. For me, it's mainly important the end user pays a reasonable price and that the market is kept in a "healthy" state. That there are agencies that sell pictures for a couple of dollars directly to clients and that photographers are happy with that, THAT is a slap in the face. THAT ruins the market! Cheers, Philippe It was meant to be a wee joke. The analogy is the funny bit. Have we lost a sense of humour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy M Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 The price is what initially threw me off. When inputting the exact sale criteria that Alamy used for the sale the price generator came up with $40.00. As this was my first sale that went through a distributor it was a little unsettling to say the least! I have no problem with people making a profit but when the photographer that did all the work i.e. travel expenses, equipment costs, image optimization and keywording and you can't even buy a cup of coffee with your share it's quite unsettling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arletta Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The price is what initially threw me off. When inputting the exact sale criteria that Alamy used for the sale the price generator came up with $40.00. As this was my first sale that went through a distributor it was a little unsettling to say the least! I have no problem with people making a profit but when the photographer that did all the work i.e. travel expenses, equipment costs, image optimization and keywording and you can't even buy a cup of coffee with your share it's quite unsettling. I wish I could give you a 100 greenies for that! A 100% of my thoughts exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Every average Joe with a camera or a smartphone floods the picture market (just look at Alamy with their Stockimo). When a market is (over)saturated, the goods have no value anymore. Dunno if you are a professional or not, but amateurs shouldn't moan, they are part of the price problem. Live with it! Just my two cents. Aaah..... the pre-digital era Those were the days ..... when our work was respected Miss them Cheers, Philippe (I know, I know, I stepped - once more - on many toes ) You really must stop wearing those heavy boots, the circulation in my big toe has ceased. I am an amateur and partially agree with you. I still want proper compensation for my work as although I currently have amateur status, I hope to build and improve my port over time. And those who are truly "professional", their work will certainly outshine mine (your nature shots put mine to shame) and they will still get the better dollars for the better shots. Surely the quality counts, and that should be what separates the professional from the amateur. I am sure you have a lot of work in offline agencies that wouldn't even look at my port. The stock world is a different ball game than the art world, where I think the true professional separates himself from the chaff. The online world creates an even playing field which is great for some and bad for others. Been that way in business for centuries. Change can be good, change can be bad, depending on which side of the fence you stand on. Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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