geogphotos Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 ........but apart from that ( Lord Lucan and Shergar references also available) I am very happy to come across this. ATV cameraman and Harrier Jump Jet ( I assume) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) ATV Telstar crew on Westminster bridge Edited October 23, 2023 by geogphotos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Not a Harrier. Similar undercarriage config. Interesting. Not a p1127th or SC1 It's on a crane, is it a prop for an ATV program? Here you are it's a fictitious plane from the ATV program the Plane Makers. https://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/2017/10/11/scott-furlong-predator-looking-the-part/ https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/the-plane-makers.8958/ Edited October 23, 2023 by Mr Standfast Stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla Dave Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 The aircraft looks like an early prototype of the Hawker P1127, which was developed into the Hawker Kestrel and then the Harrier. Your pic appears to show tethered testing of an airframe with a single engine producing vertical thrust – which would put the date quite early on in the development – maybe mid to late 1950s ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_P.1127 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Although already answered, the main give-away that it wasn't one of the Harrier lineage are the air intakes. The Harrier's are more rounded. Apart from the undercarriage my initial thought was an early test design for the Dassault Mirage IIIV vertical take off aircraft which more closely matched the overall shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) date on slide is September 1964 Edited October 24, 2023 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 SCOTT FURLONG PREDATOR, XS341 / NONE, ATV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 XS5341 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/the-plane-makers.8958/ Ian, your shots trump any other images I can see of the machine and I'd expect much interest from the aviation media. #jealousy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Pictures taken by 'Taffy' Harries ATV and BBC cameraman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 11 hours ago, Mr Standfast said: Not a Harrier. Similar undercarriage config. Interesting. Not a p1127th or SC1 It's on a crane, is it a prop for an ATV program? Here you are it's a fictitious plane from the ATV program the Plane Makers. https://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/2017/10/11/scott-furlong-predator-looking-the-part/ https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/the-plane-makers.8958/ Thanks. Well-spotted. There are a couple of others on G but none that I could find on Alamy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Last one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla Dave Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Great pics !!! Fantastic background on that old ATV show. I think we need a seperate section of the forum with that heading.... " Grazing Unicorns ! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) I totally love all this! From checking if there are any slides on sale on Ebay or in this case at my local auction. A Friday evening routine to check what is coming up locally, then visiting the auction room on Saturday morning and wondering if anybody else is interested. Bidding and buying, tracing the family, gaining permissions, working on these old slides, sharing with the forum, learning by doing research. In this case I've been able to share on a Facebook reunion ATV forum who helped me find the photographer - one of them used to be in his team in 1961! Thanks for all the help. 😀 Edited October 24, 2023 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, geogphotos said: ATV Telstar crew on Westminster bridge Don't have the foggiest idea. I'm getting lots of Acorn Antiques and Crossroads vibes but no... Edited October 24, 2023 by Mr Standfast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, geogphotos said: ........gaining permissions...... Does that include these Plane Makers images Ian? I'm sure that they'd be of interest for publication. Edited October 24, 2023 by Avpics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Avpics said: Does that include these Plane Makers images Ian? I'm sure that they'd be of interest for publication. I have written permission from the family of the photographer. Work out the deals, write the copy and Thunderbirds are go.... Edited October 24, 2023 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 35 minutes ago, Mr Standfast said: Don't have the foggiest idea. I'm getting lots of Acorn Antiques and Crossroads vibes but no... Telstar was the first satellite that allowed Trans-Atlantic transmissions of TV - something on those lines. The pics I have show fellas with binoculars looking out for something, a sign I suppose - presumably so the ATV crew could inform the nation of whatever it was that had potentially happened or not as the case may have been or not been depending on what they saw or didn't. Seems like some hanging about was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I stick to pics now Ian, but once available I can point some people in the images' direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Avpics said: I stick to pics now Ian, but once available I can point some people in the images' direction. They are available now but not on Alamy just yet. 🤫 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, geogphotos said: They are available now but not on Alamy just yet. 🤫 OK. Any other words on here would probably see us thrown out by Alamy 🥸 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 23/10/2023 at 19:39, geogphotos said: ATV Telstar crew on Westminster bridge Ian, where is the evidence for Telstar? Looks more like drama than news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 23/10/2023 at 19:39, geogphotos said: ATV Telstar crew on Westminster bridge Just to check that you've pinpointed the exact location, being that it isn't on Westminster Bridge as such. The arch doorway is still there on the embankment, near where the Covid memorial now begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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