aphperspective Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just checking my cloud back up this morning. All gone, folders, gone, the whole account empty. It's not my primary back up facility just one of them thankfully. No data lost as it's held in several locations; lesson don't keep your back-ups in one location or computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, aphperspective said: Just checking my cloud back up this morning. All gone, folders, gone, the whole account empty. It's not my primary back up facility just one of them thankfully. No data lost as it's held in several locations; lesson don't keep your back-ups in one location or computer. I'm not on the cloud, as I don't trust them. My backup is an external drive, but they can also become corrupt and lose data. I've thought about going back to Flickr as a general backup, but is too much work. I've having trouble with uploading here on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 one back up is never enough! External drives are really cheap these days and one should be stored in a separate location and rotated as regularly as practical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphperspective Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 From what I can gather it's a problem with Microsoft Outlook One Drive Accounts, but very little help from MS as usual Seeing as the account is now empty, I shall close it down any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Photography Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I have always used my own local storage. I use a Western Digital MyCloud file server which has two 3 TB WD Red drives configured as RAID drives so that the one drive is mirrored onto the other drive automatically. My Lightroom catalogs are mapped to this single drive so that my images are backed-up all the time. Just to be sure I have another 3TB external USB 3 drive which I copy the file server to every couple of months. So it’s a triple backup system that requires very little effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, MB Photography said: I have always used my own local storage. I use a Western Digital MyCloud file server which has two 3 TB WD Red drives configured as RAID drives so that the one drive is mirrored onto the other drive automatically. My Lightroom catalogs are mapped to this single drive so that my images are backed-up all the time. Just to be sure I have another 3TB external USB 3 drive which I copy the file server to every couple of months. So it’s a triple backup system that requires very little effort. A RAID is not a back up, and if your external drive is stored in your home as well, it is not secure against fire theft or flood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Photography Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 14 hours ago, Cal said: A RAID is not a back up, and if your external drive is stored in your home as well, it is not secure against fire theft or flood. Completely wrong. RAID 1 is a mirror of one of the drives so if one of the drives has a hardware failure the second drive contains all the data which can be recovered or the faulty disk replaced. If you accidentally delete a file it’s placed in the File Servers Recycle Bin which is not emptied automatically. I never mentioned anything about where the external drive was stored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 16/11/2022 at 08:42, MB Photography said: Completely wrong. RAID 1 is a mirror of one of the drives so if one of the drives has a hardware failure the second drive contains all the data which can be recovered or the faulty disk replaced. If you accidentally delete a file it’s placed in the File Servers Recycle Bin which is not emptied automatically. I never mentioned anything about where the external drive was stored. if you work in IT I feel sorry for your clients. I know full well what a RAID is and it isn't a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 16/11/2022 at 08:42, MB Photography said: Completely wrong. RAID 1 is a mirror of one of the drives so if one of the drives has a hardware failure the second drive contains all the data which can be recovered or the faulty disk replaced. If you accidentally delete a file it’s placed in the File Servers Recycle Bin which is not emptied automatically. I never mentioned anything about where the external drive was stored. So one drive mirrors the other, but there's no protection against fire, theft, power supply spike etc. because both are housed in the same enclosure.... On 15/11/2022 at 17:33, MB Photography said: Just to be sure I have another 3TB external USB 3 drive which I copy the file server to every couple of months. That's better, so long as it's kept in a separate location. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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