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I know it's useless knowledge, but here Astrantia is called Zeeuws Knoopje; button from Zeeland (southern coastal province of the Netherlands and pretty powerful in the 17th C).

Whether it resembles this:

260px-Zeeuwse_knoop_broche_1.JPG

or the other way around is still being debated I think.

 

If you zoom in on this chap's uniform buttons, you'll see them in use:

260px-Portrait_of_Michiel_de_Ruyter_by_F

He's the leader of what's here called the Trip to Chatham.

And what's called the Raid on the Medway over at the other side of the North Sea.

 

wim

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On 17/08/2020 at 16:46, wiskerke said:

I know it's useless knowledge, but here Astrantia is called Zeeuws Knoopje; button from Zeeland (southern coastal province of the Netherlands and pretty powerful in the 17th C).

Whether it resembles this:

260px-Zeeuwse_knoop_broche_1.JPG

or the other way around is still being debated I think.

 

If you zoom in on this chap's uniform buttons, you'll see them in use:

260px-Portrait_of_Michiel_de_Ruyter_by_F

He's the leader of what's here called the Trip to Chatham.

And what's called the Raid on the Medway over at the other side of the North Sea.

 

wim

That is so interesting Wim, thank you, and not at all uninteresting to me as my ancestor Cornelis de Witt was one of those 3 commanders.  (Ancestry linked via Tjerck de Witt to Johan de Witt.  I have traced it even further back.)

 

Kathy

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Wow! Interesting part of history that!

 

Cornelis de Witt; op achtergrond de Tocht naar Chatham.

Cornelis.

It looks like his photographer painter did get his exposure right.

en.wiki

Dutch wiki - translated by Google

Journey (or: Trip) to Chatham = Raid on the Medway

And another little tidbit here. - translated by Google

(The National Forensics institute recently investigated the claim and found no dna, but the team thought it plausible, because the whole history of the piece could be tracked down to 1672.)

 

250px-Jan_de_Baen-_De_lijken_van_de_gebr

about this painting - translated by Google

 

He ended up like this though. Most famous lynching in The Netherlands.

This was one of the leaders of the conspiracy. He was created a baronet by Charles II.

The whole story is a perennial favorite with 11-12 yr olds in the history lesson.

 

wim

 

edit 2: the documentary about the tidbit is here. Their cookies make a mess of the Google translation though. The video is in Dutch anyway.

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On 17/08/2020 at 16:46, wiskerke said:

useless knowledge,

No such thing (for a keyworder)

1 hour ago, Kathy deWitt said:

my ancestor Cornelis de Witt was one of those 3 commanders. 

especially when we get to find this out because you brought it to light.

My eyes literally opened a bit wider.

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1 hour ago, wiskerke said:

Wow! Interesting part of history that!

 

Cornelis de Witt; op achtergrond de Tocht naar Chatham.

Cornelis.

It looks like his photographer painter did get his exposure right.

en.wiki

Dutch wiki - translated by Google

Journey (or: Trip) to Chatham = Raid on the Medway

And another little tidbit here. - translated by Google

(The National Forensics institute recently investigated the claim and found no dna, but the team thought it plausible, because the whole history of the piece could be tracked down to 1672.)

 

250px-Jan_de_Baen-_De_lijken_van_de_gebr

about this painting - translated by Google

 

He ended up like this though. Most famous lynching in The Netherlands.

This was one of the leaders of the conspiracy. He was created a baronet by Charles II.

The whole story is a perennial favorite with 11-12 yr olds in the history lesson.

 

wim

 

edit 2: the documentary about the tidbit is here. Their cookies make a mess of the Google translation though. The video is in Dutch anyway.

Thanks for the gruesome links Wim and the illustrations of which I am aware...but a Tromp....ugh!.....I didn't know that....reading his profile there must be a genetic link to the current despicable one.  All the more reason for me to make sure my vote gets through the postal service and counted in November.  Glad to see Johan's enhanced reputation is being appreciated in this century.

 

Kathy

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33 minutes ago, Kathy deWitt said:

Thanks for the gruesome links Wim and the illustrations of which I am aware...but a Tromp....ugh!.....I didn't know that....reading his profile there must be a genetic link to the current despicable one.  All the more reason for me to make sure my vote gets through the postal service and counted in November.  Glad to see Johan's enhanced reputation is being appreciated in this century.

 

Kathy

I think you're in luck. His lie line seems to be German with a "u" not an "o".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

Although Trump Sr. did claim to be Swedish when the national sentiment was anti-German. Not me, guv. Sounds familiar.

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13 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

I think you're in luck. His lie line seems to be German with a "u" not an "o".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

Although Trump Sr. did claim to be Swedish when the national sentiment was anti-German. Not me, guv. Sounds familiar.

 

This is his grandfather on Wikipedia.

I don't think there has been a Who do you think you are with the Donald yet. Maybe if he retires to Scotland.

 

wim

 

edit: meaning you never know who your ancestor turns out to be.

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