biel Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 hi, looking a bit in search. search: "Badalona" and this image ADH8GC do not appears, (image sold for $ 857.19) in location field Badalona is, so "location" field is not searchable?? (now I put the city name in others fields) another this image A1NE5C is sold 3 times searching 15 to 25 pages (120 pics per page) I don't find it, so is more deep. so if this image is sold 3 times, all others displayed before are sold 4 or more times? for what reason if a pic is sold don't have a plus for go up in first pages? so a suggestion, if a pic is sold this have a "10 poinds" for to be displayed in first pages in a search, if 2 sales 10 poinds more, if 3 sales 10 poinds more... plus, if a sale is for 1000$ 1000 more poinds, if a sale is for 6$, 6 more poinds and so on. both quantity of sales & price sold are two diferent fields of course. not is this more reasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 No, the location field is not searchable any more. Because especially doing a Creative search it threw up all sorts of micro studio shots when clients just looked for a city. It made Creative look silly. Yes the shots were fully released, but there was no city in sight, just a studio. Rank is determined over the whole pseudo, not just an image. However some images that have sold a couple of times get promoted into Creative and will appear before the Relevant aka regular ones. Those can be many pages down for popular searches like London (43,5 pages of Creative) or Barcelona (6,5 pages of Creative)Rank does take into account all your sales and your Click Through Rate of 300 days prior to the day the current ranking started. And ranking is supposed to take place roughly every 100 days. My feeling is that sales outweigh CTR by a great margin. Alamy has on a couple of occasions said, that they are working more towards a ranking per image. The promoting to Creative is a move in that direction. All clients that visit Alamy for the first time have their search set as Creative. If they do not choose New or Relevant by hand, it will stay that way. (It's a cookie.) So if your image that sells so well is sitting far behind in a search, it may well be that the others have sold more, or that maybe not these images, but the rest of their images have sold a lot more. It's also possible that the sales and searches have been for totally different keywords. The other possibility is that your sales were too long ago. Also making only a few sales from a large collection (not your problem) is not very good for your rank. Have a look at the discussions about BHZ on this forum. Some people have reported here that clients start to use the New search tab more and more, to find newer images. That will throw yours (and mine) way back to the rear. I'm pretty sure the picking of individual images to be included in Creative works more or less like you propose. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydingo Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Hello Gabriel. I think you'll find individual images are not ranked, only individual pseudonyms. So the images in front of yours haven't necessarily sold more than yours, but the pseudonym they belong in has a higher Rank than your pseudonym. EDIT: Yeah, what Wim said above also, while I was typing dd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Hello Gabriel. I think you'll find individual images are not ranked, only individual pseudonyms. So the images in front of yours haven't necessarily sold more than yours, but the pseudonym they belong in has a higher Rank than your pseudonym. EDIT: Yeah, what Wim said above also, while I was typing dd Ah but yours was a bit more to the point. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biel Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 ok, but I think this policy is VERY BAD. So If I have 2 or 3 pics sell for 900$ and another person have 100 sales for 10$ the pics of the "cheap guy" come before in search results??? and if a pic is sell many times for what reason the pic is send to hell ranking? if I are a buyer and see 1 pic in a "900$" display and wow I want this pic and search a bit in alamy but after 20 pages I don't find the image... the buyer go away tired!!!??? in the end no money for the phot. no money for alamy. if alamy have staff of web devoloping/programmers this rank for image is very easy to implement. in resume, no matter if a pic is shot by cartier-breson or by a totally unknown guy with a obscure pseudo. MONEY TALKS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWheal Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 If I was a picture buyer, personally, if there was a choice, I would prefer to licence a photo that had not been used before. originality would be key. Also if a photo sold for $900 it was bought for a specific purpose, probably advertising at that price. A photo that is suitable for a particular product advertising may not be suitable for another. It could also work against you. If buyers were aware that the top ranked photos were repeat sellers that could put them off for reasons I mentioned above Just my opinion Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biel Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 o well, another good option in advanced search, an option box for pics previously sold and another for pics never sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 +1 can think of 20 more option boxes or much better: sliders in advanced search. How about a slider for: least sold - most sold least viewed - most viewed least zoomed - most zoomed least popular - most popular a slider for fuzzy - exact search UK English - US English agencies - individual contributors RF - RM newly addedrecently shotinvert individual photographer's submissions (best first vs best last while keeping photographers' ranking)randomizer - totally random (like random player - each click different) A search option for colors for copyspace for similar style images How about a ratings system: editor's pickviewer's pickbuyer's pick (buyers have also considered these) rated by registered viewersrated by visitorsrated by the photographerrated by this client on a former occasion a complaints button a button to flag for wrong or missing keywords If I think for ten minutes I'll have another 10. A seasoned image buyer will come up with another 10. If we would look at the best all the competitors have in place, I'm sure we'll find 10 more. For now my weekend has begun. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biel Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 +1 can think of 20 more option boxes or much better: sliders in advanced search. How about a slider for: least sold - most sold least viewed - most viewed least zoomed - most zoomed least popular - most popular most of this are inpracticable, most irrelevant, some like the photo.net options for photo "amateurs". I think this is a business and buyer oriented, so put options necessary to facilitate the purchase not for lost time looking, rating... pictures. my 2cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWheal Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think you find those options were posted tongue in cheek Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydingo Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I think you find those options were posted tongue in cheek Kevin . . . ssshhhhhhh . . . dd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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