Gordon Scammell Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I photographed a flooded road on Christmas Day. The Telegraph used the image in their online edition on 29th Dec 2012 The image has never shown up on any sales so one can only assume that the Telegraph has not reported the usage. I have sent the screen grab to MS on two separate occasions and asked them to make some enquiries. I have been assured they will chase it up. Today is July 17th. Still no payment. Still no notification of usage. Nothing. The image was probably sold for peanuts anyway - I assume that is MS cannot be bothered to chase it up. I give up. Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Spiers Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have always found that they do chase but even when chased, it can still take a few more weeks to work its way through the system. Coincidentally, I had a flood picture used just after Christmas and that has only just been reported. I didn't know it had been used so didn't chase but it does show that some papers reporting times can be as long as 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long journey Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 super low prcies and non reporting seems to be the accepted business model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabbro Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 For Telegraph, don't bother to chase it. You will be more pi$$ed off when you see how much you get paid. I'd rather they don't tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM photo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The business model is: wait as long as you can before paying, don't pay unless you have to, and pay as little as possible. It's no good complaining - why is anyone still in the newspaper scheme? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWheal Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 why is anyone still in the newspaper scheme? Chris So that when people "steal" the photo from the newspaper websites I can invoice them and get some proper fees. LOL Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM photo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 why is anyone still in the newspaper scheme? Chris So that when people "steal" the photo from the newspaper websites I can invoice them and get some proper fees. LOL Kevin Good answer - but does it pay off? In my experience the images end up on blogs in China and Russia. :-( Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWheal Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yes, I have had some good payouts but you have to be selective on who you chase. Don't waste your time on blogs etc. Also study who you chase up and pitch the invoice amount to a sensible amount in tune with who they are. Lately I invoiced a local council and a hobbyists fishing website. The council was invoiced for more than the hobbyist and being sensible amounts they both paid. I know some people advocate invoicing for massive amounts because of the theft aspect but if you want a quick resolution without invoking solicitors keep it sensible. Think, If I was that person/company would I be likely to pay that amount without a fuss. Just my thoughts Kevin why is anyone still in the newspaper scheme? Chris So that when people "steal" the photo from the newspaper websites I can invoice them and get some proper fees. LOL Kevin Good answer - but does it pay off? In my experience the images end up on blogs in China and Russia. :-( Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Scammell Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Just found The Guardian online also used the image Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov makabaw Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I had a similar experience with the Telegraph but MS did sort it out eventually. If I understand correctly they pay a fixed sum for their images and would therefore have a vested interest not to report usage so that they have a lower volume on which to base next year's fee on. From their perspective they are paying a fixed fee so have no incentive to administer usage - or am I just being cynical? dov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM photo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yes, I have had some good payouts but you have to be selective on who you chase. Don't waste your time on blogs etc. Also study who you chase up and pitch the invoice amount to a sensible amount in tune with who they are. Lately I invoiced a local council and a hobbyists fishing website. The council was invoiced for more than the hobbyist and being sensible amounts they both paid. I know some people advocate invoicing for massive amounts because of the theft aspect but if you want a quick resolution without invoking solicitors keep it sensible. Think, If I was that person/company would I be likely to pay that amount without a fuss. Just my thoughts Kevin why is anyone still in the newspaper scheme? Chris So that when people "steal" the photo from the newspaper websites I can invoice them and get some proper fees. LOL Kevin Good answer - but does it pay off? In my experience the images end up on blogs in China and Russia. :-( Chris Point taken, and good for you, Kevin. I prefer to deal with honorable people in the first place, but perhaps I'm being naive. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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