Suman Acharya Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Hi i would be grateful if anyone could tell me exact common name and latin too (if you know). i tried with google but no luck. thank you in advance. my english is not good enough to keyword them nicely to reach potential buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM photo Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 We would need some clue as to where they were taken. And if it's Nepal, it might be hard to come up with an answer. (I've seen the moth, or something very similar to it, in Borneo, but I don't think I found a firm ID.) Failing all else, you might have to go with: beetle; shield bug; small bee; moth; cricket. Best not to guess. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suman Acharya Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 thanks Chris. they are all taken in Kamane, Hetauda, Central Region, Nepal. thanks Phillippe, i was expecting your reply. it looked honeybee to me, anyway i will change that to hoverfly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 F076MP isn't a hoverfly, it's some kind of bee, though not a honey bee. Hoverflies don't have the thin waist that wasps and bees do - the abdomen and thorax carry on the same width all the way down as a rule. I can't identify and of the species above but they are nice images. The last one looks like an immature bush cricket of some type. The first one could be a bombardier beetle - again, more that one species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suman Acharya Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 thanks Phil for clarification on F076MP. i have also found some images similar to mine that reads Bombardier beetle but it didn't defended itself bombarding that smokey chemical when i touched it, photographed it really close.!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM photo Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 As a rule: hoverflies have a single pair of wings, bees and wasps have two, and hoverflies have short, stumpy antennae whereas bees and wasps have longer ones. According to this, F076MP is a wasp or a bee (but probably a wasp) Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera tigris Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I am in the bee camp as well. Second one (red one) looks to be a Pyrrhocoridae (you won't get any further down the classification without a clear photo of the whole thing and even then ) Last one is a Katydid nymph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suman Acharya Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 thanks Panthera i will search further on Pyrrhocoridae for that red one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suman Acharya Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 F076MP isn't a hoverfly, it's some kind of bee, though not a honey bee. Hoverflies don't have the thin waist that wasps and bees do - the abdomen and thorax carry on the same width all the way down as a rule. I can't identify and of the species above but they are nice images. The last one looks like an immature bush cricket of some type. The first one could be a bombardier beetle - again, more that one species. I'm not so sure about that. The abdomen of bees are usually quite hairy while this specimen's abdomen looks rather smooth like that of a hoverfly. Besides, many hoverflies are wasp mimics with a metathorax that shows a fine black band in the middle flanked by yellow thus mimicking a thin waist, especially when sitting on a yellow flower (see example here). I think that's exactly what we see in Suman's picture: a mimic of a thin waist (though hard to see. Suman could check this when looking at pixel level). The way the bands are formed on the abdomen also reminds me more of a hoverfly than a bee or wasp. Notice especially the irregular one, second closest to the thorax, showing a slight protrusion towards the thorax (wasps show the protrusions pointing away from the thorax). To be absolutely sure, you have to look for a spurious vein parallel to the fourth longitudinal wing vein. If you see that, you're dealing with a hoverfly and not a bee nor wasp. ........ ..... ... .. I start to sound like a nerd, don't I? Cheers, Philippe (I always wanted to be a biology teacher ) at pixel level . it has one pair of wings. segmented body in three part; head, body and abdomen..very thin waist..from your description it looks like a wasp mimic..but it also very much looks like Asiatic honey bee too, they are found in Sounthern and Southeastern Asia (the photo's location match this)..so i think it is as you said in another comment Apis cerena. Learn some interesting things about metathoraxes, wasp mimicry and longitudinal wing veins. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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