Mark Baigent 158 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) Hi all I have not bothered much with Alamy for a year or two, too busy with other stuff. I do remember the nightmare that was keywording, I assume/hope that has changed. Could somebody point me at an idiots guide to keywording, or chuck a few tips my way please. Mark Edited July 12, 2018 by Mark Baigent Link to post Share on other sites
NYCat 2,971 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 From Alamy's blog.....https://www.alamy.com/blog/tagging-images-on-alamy?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=content_blog The new Image Manager is a nightmare in my opinion so good luck. Take a look here... https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/7028-instructions-help-video-and-links-for-new-alamy-image-manager/ Paulette 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Rico 382 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 My usual routine is to go to the Microstock keyword site at https://keyword.io/tool/stock-photo-research Copy a bunch of kw, then paste them into Lightroom's Library module. Lastly, fix them up later in the Image manager after they have been accepted. It usually goes fairly quickly Rick 1 Link to post Share on other sites
spacecadet 4,472 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) Welcome back. Opinions are divided -IME the new AIM is easier to use. I see you don't over-tag (yes, I'm afraid they're called "tags" now) so your legacy images should have transferred over quite well. Just make sure that the tags which have transferred over as supertags- usually the first 6 or 8- are the ones you actually want as supers, because they have higher significance (as esskeys used to). You can now combine tags into phrases, which is useful, as they rank higher than single words. https://www.alamy.com/myupload/help/AIM-InstructionManual.pdf It's quite a bit harder to remove tags in bulk once they're in place, so getting it right first time is a good idea. Cut and paste no longer works, by and large. Edited July 12, 2018 by spacecadet 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Baigent 158 Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, spacecadet said: Welcome back. Did you miss me, good to see that you are still persevering 1 hour ago, spacecadet said: Opinions are divided -IME the new AIM is easier to use. I see you don't over-tag (yes, I'm afraid they're called "tags" now) so your legacy images should have transferred over quite well. Just make sure that the tags which have transferred over as supertags- usually the first 6 or 8- are the ones you actually want as supers, because they have higher significance (as esskeys used to). You can now combine tags into phrases, which is useful, as they rank higher than single words. https://www.alamy.com/myupload/help/AIM-InstructionManual.pdf It's quite a bit harder to remove tags in bulk once they're in place, so getting it right first time is a good idea. Cut and paste no longer works, by and large. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
phomme 29 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 It seems to me when I made my first submission to Alamy back in the Fall of 2017, they had 70 some million photos in their collection. Today some 140 million, with these numbers you need some luck and great keywords to have your work discovered in searches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Baigent 158 Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, phomme said: It seems to me when I made my first submission to Alamy back in the Fall of 2017, they had 70 some million photos in their collection. Today some 140 million, with these numbers you need some luck and great keywords to have your work discovered in searches. I remember the horror when there were 8 million images :-( 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Betty LaRue 3,790 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I’m with Mark. (spacecadet) I think the new AIM is right up in my wheelhouse. I tag in Bridge before uploading. Those tags are uploaded with the image, so it’s just a matter of selecting supertags. I do use phrases. Instead of deck, cards, I use “deck of cards”, “decorative tiles” baby girl, piece of chocolate cake, slice of apple pie, etc. I’ll still use some of the singles too. Betty 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NYCat 2,971 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 It does seem that keywording before uploading makes the Image Manager easier. I'm afraid I am unlikely to make friends with it but it becomes easier to endure. Paulette 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wawa 12 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) Hi Mark, You can try MyKeyworder.com. It can be helpful but keep in mind that it, like so many computer-assisted features, can let you easily slip into auto-pilot mode where you let the site do all the "thinking" for you and you may leave out some keywords that are more appropriate. Similar to using a GPS - you don't pay as much attention to where you're going and just let the device hold your hand all the way to the final destination. What I usually do is try and keyword as much as I can on my own and when I run out of ideas I plug in a description into MyKeyworder and hope it fills in the remaining blanks. Hope that helps. Edited July 12, 2018 by Wawa 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allan Bell 2,964 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Wawa said: Hi Mark, You can try MyKeyworder.com. It can be helpful but keep in mind that it, like so many computer-assisted features, can let you easily slip into auto-pilot mode where you let the site do all the "thinking" for you and you may leave out some keywords that are more appropriate. Similar to using a GPS - you don't pay as much attention to where you're going and just let the device hold your hand all the way to the final destination. What I usually do is try and keyword as much as I can on my own and when I run out of ideas I plug in a description into MyKeyworder and hope it fills in the remaining blanks. Hope that helps. Have you paid or do you still use free version? Allan Link to post Share on other sites
Betty LaRue 3,790 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 17 hours ago, NYCat said: It does seem that keywording before uploading makes the Image Manager easier. I'm afraid I am unlikely to make friends with it but it becomes easier to endure. Paulette 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Morgan 1,215 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I also keyword before uploading, but usually end up adding some afterwards. It does make it so much easier when working in AIM. And Bridge puts them in AIM in the order you type them, so your supertags should be the first ones in the list as long as you typed them that way in Bridge. Really have to take a day off and go out with the cameras and do some shooting. Need a bit of a break from the grind. Jill Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Baigent 158 Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 Thanks all :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Chris1603 2 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Do tags require " " around them when you enter each tag? Link to post Share on other sites
Avpics 1,952 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Chris1603 said: Do tags require " " around them when you enter each tag? No, just enter the words or phrases 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Harrison 664 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Chris1603 said: Do tags require " " around them when you enter each tag? No, in AIM you just comma separate each keyword or phrase if you are entering more than one at a time. Edited March 13, 2019 by Harry Harrison typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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