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On 5/7/2018 at 08:10, Dyn Llun said:

Disappointing yes, but, I'm afraid, absolutely typical of amateurs playing at photography. Or as I prefer to regard them, 'pretend professionals'. The one thing they can't take is constructive criticism. What they do and how they work is always right. They give up after a while because they can't up their game to any reasonable standard but in the meantime they are a pain in the posterior. 

Pete Davis

www.pete-davis-photography.com

http://peteslandscape.blogspot.co.uk/

My initial submission failed. It was a stab to my heart, but nobody else knew it. I wanted this profession so much I just kept plugging away. Over the years, I had more failures, back when we all were punished 30 days. That minuscule CA in the upper right corner I missed? My fault. The dust bunny in the sky? My fault.  The worst of all was my failure to discern when “soft” crossed the line. A change in camera systems fixed that. Plus my killer “if in doubt, toss it” attitude I developed. It’s a long learning process for some of us who need an anvil dropped on our heads to get it.  I finally got it.

Just get on with it and don’t whine. 

That said, I whined a bit about the filtered creative image where I deliberately added grain for the “vintage” look that suited the image and it failed for noise.  That one still smarts. :D

Betty

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3 hours ago, ChrisC said:

banging your head against the wall.

 

Chris 

Been there. The forum got me through it. And new specs.

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On 07/05/2018 at 14:10, Dyn Llun said:

Disappointing yes, but, I'm afraid, absolutely typical of amateurs playing at photography. Or as I prefer to regard them, 'pretend professionals'. The one thing they can't take is constructive criticism. What they do and how they work is always right. 

A bit harsh, perhaps. I consider myself to be both an amateur playing at photography and a pretend professional, and I expect there are plenty of others here like me. I think I’m doing OK considering. Only one QC fail shortly after starting, and none in a year now with thousands of photos uploaded.

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On 07/05/2018 at 14:10, Dyn Llun said:

Disappointing yes, but, I'm afraid, absolutely typical of amateurs playing at photography. Or as I prefer to regard them, 'pretend professionals'. The one thing they can't take is constructive criticism. What they do and how they work is always right. They give up after a while because they can't up their game to any reasonable standard but in the meantime they are a pain in the posterior. 

 

We were all there once. None of us was paid from the first frame.

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Professionalism is not about where you start from, but about the way you work to achieve your goals.

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2 hours ago, Niels Quist said:

Professionalism is not about where you start from, but about the way you work to achieve your goals.

 

I agree with Niels.  Professionalism doesn't mean you are out there daily making a living with your images.  Professionalism is a frame of mind and attitude about what you do and how you put it out there. Most of us here do not make our living with our images, but do have knowledge on our craft, perfect our craft and take pride in our craft.  Professionals do not want to submit sub par work at any stage of the game.

 

Not checking your images is just being lazy and unprofessional.

 

Jill

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3 hours ago, Sally said:

A bit harsh, perhaps. I consider myself to be both an amateur playing at photography and a pretend professional, and I expect there are plenty of others here like me. I think I’m doing OK considering. Only one QC fail shortly after starting, and none in a year now with thousands of photos uploaded.

 

Yes but you apply a professional approach to your work, and appreciate the need to do so when serving professional customers. That is what many people don't do. They think that all anyone with a camera has to do is press the button and wait for the cheque.

 

Alan

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Its how QC works all over the world. The whole point of QC is not to hold your hand and check every image that you produce. Its to check a representative sample. If there are faults in one image there may well be faults in others. My largest batch I submitted was 470 images. Do I expect Alamy to check 470 images for sharpness, exposure and dust? If they see one fault, out goes the batch, nothing stupid about it. As I wrote in an earlier post, its the same in science - in a regulated (ie QC controlled) working environment QC check a sample of your data and if they find an incidence of non-compliance out goes the study. 

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Morning,

 

We've deleted a couple comments, as the thread was going off topic.

 

Thanks,

 

Alamy

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I’m a total newbe to this “Stock” but not photograhy, its a steep learning curve especially as a photographer who enjoys blur/arty work also. However i’m enjoying the challenge. I haven’t asked many questions on here because most of the answers seem to have been covered. I appreciate the support and very welcome advise in these forums. 

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some pretty harsh answers here. let's have some compassion folks.

this is a forum for advice and discussion

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5 hours ago, lynnfriedman said:

some pretty harsh answers here. let's have some compassion folks.

this is a forum for advice and discussion

 

Funny... I see only advice and discussion in this thread. Reality can be harsh sometimes. That's the way it is. Compassion won't get you through QC. But solid advice from experienced people who have learned how to apply a professional approach to their photography might do so.

 

Alan

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Looks like toys have been thrown from the pram. Click on the OPs portfolio & there is nothing shown.

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On 5/1/2018 at 13:52, danielmckay said:

Has this happened to you?

Thank You.

 

 

Yes. It's happened to everyone who has ever had a fail. The only exception is processing errors, where other images will pass (if not otherwise subject to QC fail issues).

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6 hours ago, lynnfriedman said:

some pretty harsh answers here. let's have some compassion folks.

this is a forum for advice and discussion

 

You have revived a thread from May. I see you asked a question elsewhere and that is generally the way to go. Reviving old threads is confusing to regular Forum readers. At least it is to me.

 

Paulette

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thank you, everyone, for your professional and for the most part, helpful responses.

It looks like the harsh responses were removed by the administrator.

I merely look to the forum for advice and understand your confusion and annoyance. been there.

My toys have been carefully returned to the pram (US version baby carriage). 

 

perhaps off topic, but my frustration is that my Alamy rejected images have already been

accepted by other reputable stock agencies.

Please understand, the Alamy system is rather confusing for a newby . 

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1 hour ago, lynnfriedman said:

 

perhaps off topic, but my frustration is that my Alamy rejected images have already been

accepted by other reputable stock agencies.

 

 

Alamy selects only for technical quality, not for content. This ensures that customers can be confident that an image will be usable at any size and they are less likely to cancel sales because a picture that looked to be of high quality turns out to be less so at full resolution.

 

Alan

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On 12/21/2018 at 19:01, lynnfriedman said:

My toys have been carefully returned to the pram (US version baby carriage). 

I wasn't referring to you Lynn(?) I was referring to the OP (original poster) in response to John Walker's comment the there had been no response from them. If you click on their portfolio it seems that their 157 images are no longer available.

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10 minutes ago, Russell said:

I wasn't referring to you Lynn(?) I was referring to the OP (original poster)

 

That's the trouble with reviving old threads. Not a good idea, it's confusing.

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