Jump to content
Marb

Taking shots of a BBC film production.

Recommended Posts

32 minutes ago, Marb said:

So how come most of my alamy uploads in my port here average around 10MB ?

Because compressed file size (in MB)  is not the same thing as document, or image, size (in MP).

For example, one of your WOTW images, MBBC4T, is 3945x2787px. That's about 11MP. Multiply by 3, because there's one byte for each colour, and you get 33MB. Note the emphasis. (It's actually a bit under 33 for arithmetical reasons- that's why it says 31.5MB). When compressed for upload, because JPEG is a compressed format, it's 10MB in your case, but it varies.

Your HD video frame grabs are no doubt much smaller because HD is only 1920x1080px, or about 2 MP, which is under the minimum for stock. I don't think there's a minimum for news.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
41 minutes ago, Marb said:

So how come most of my alamy uploads in my port here average around 10MB ?

 

 

Uncompressed = minimum 17mb

Compressed = whaterver size it turns out

 

you havent understood the basics

 

over and out

 

km

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, spacecadet said:

 don't think there's a minimum for news.

 

5mb......1650x1100

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, RedSnapper said:

 

5mb......1650x1100

So Marb's HD frame grab would just have squeaked in as news.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, spacecadet said:

So Marb's HD frame grab would just have squeaked in as news.

My point exactly which is why I was trying to pursue it. I have a decent action shot from a screen grab.

 

Edited by Marb

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Marb said:

My point exactly which is why I was trying to pursue it. I have a decent action shot from a screen grab.

 

If you had submitted it within 48 hours it should not have been rejected for size. I think by the time you started discussing the frame grab the deadline had passed.

Hope you read my post about file v. document size.

Edited by spacecadet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did attempt to submit it within 24 hours but it still wouldn't go.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did attempt to submit it within 24 hours but it still wouldn't go.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Marb said:

I did attempt to submit it within 24 hours but it still wouldn't go.

 

 

what are the EXACT pixel dimensons of the image you tried to upload

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you are in the U.K. And in a public place, you are free to publish, ask anyone who questions you from BBC for Id and report them to production manager and BBC press office.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No reply to the question as to the exact pixel size of the image that failed the upload I notice......

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am involved in filming, used to be a camera operator / focus puller now a prop man, productions don't like it as it could give a story line away or other info about the film, we are not allowed to post anything on any social media site, and taking pics is frowned upon, on set but obviously in a public place they can't really control the setting or stop the public taking pics.

 I was focus puller on Fools and Horses including the Batman and Robin episode, the production did everything to keep photographers away, late night in Bristol, artic lorries, sheets of poly, large silk screens etc covered the action as they really didn't want anyone to see the story and give it away, and they succeeded in that instance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, Kelv said:

productions don't like it as it could give a story line away or other info about the film, we are not allowed to post anything on any social media site, and taking pics is frowned upon, on set but obviously in a public place they can't really control the setting or stop the public taking pics.

 

 

Yep....

I do a lot of production stills for TV and film drama......it's a pain in the ass when closely guarded plot lines  are , perhaps completely innocently , divulged by photos taken, and then shared,  by people outside of the production cordon.....

 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, RedSnapper said:

 

 

Yep....

I do a lot of production stills for TV and film drama......it's a pain in the ass when closely guarded plot lines  are , perhaps completely innocently , divulged by photos taken, and then shared,  by people outside of the production cordon.....

 

 

Must be tricky with your feet in both camps! :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, losdemas said:

 

Must be tricky with your feet in both camps! :D

 

 

ha, no, not really......i never shoot film/tv from the street......for that very reason. 

 

km

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, losdemas said:

 

Must be tricky with your feet in both camps! :D

Keith's feet know which side their bread is buttered.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On the subject of being "bothered" by people from a production crew. Today a film crew turned up in the village with a well know sports celebrity doing a meet and greet as part of a documentary to be released later in the year. I already new when they would arrive and positioned myself on the opposite side of the street to get some shots. Sure enough as soon as my DSLR came into view a production assistant came trotting over. She asked who was i and  what was i doing and i would need the permission of the celebrity to take pictures. My reply was "as you are not a member of the law enforcement force, who i am had very little to do with you. Secondly i am stood in a public place and these images will be for editorial use only on a live news feed, and as such i don't need permission and if you have trouble digesting that call the police and we will see who is on the right side of the law as there are no tapes/barriers saying where to stand." Of trotted production assistant never to return. My advice when challenged stand your ground if you know your right. 

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have close up shots of the soldiers Royal Artillery war damaged uniform out of context from the general shots of the production. The detail does not identify War Of The Worlds or the BBC. It could be a fancy dress or other situation. The question is, can I use it as a general stock image and not editorial or is it still in the grey area of copyright ? The reason I ask is because I might submit it with no relation to the program at all.

 

Also, some of the extras I photographed swapped email addresses as they would like copies of images with themselves in. As they were so nice and obliging I did say I would do that.

Edited by Marb

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There's no copyright as such in a costume. Design right didn't exist in 1914, and if it had it would have been Crown copyright and it is now long expired.

As you know there's no separate copyright in a photograph of a painting. Similar principle here.

Edited by spacecadet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, spacecadet said:

There's no copyright as such in a costume. Design right didn't exist in 1914, and if it had it would have been Crown copyright and it is now long expired.

As you know there's no separate copyright in a photograph of a painting. Similar principle here.

Ok, thanks for that. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You should still annotate as no property release though.

The licence you grant the actors should be limited- you don't want them using it in "Spotlight" or sending it to the papers. Unless you get the fee of course!. Maybe send a small size that's just suitable for a small print.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, spacecadet said:

As you know there's no separate copyright in a photograph of a painting.

 

 

um, i'd not be quite so emphatic.....

Many instances exist where museums and galleries have photographed their collections, and copyright certainly exists in their images of paintings made, in some cases, hundreds of years ago...

 

km

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok, thanks again. Would a prosthetic body in the street be also property that hasn't a release ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, RedSnapper said:

 

 

um, i'd not be quite so emphatic.....

Many instances exist where museums and galleries have photographed their collections, and copyright certainly exists in their images of paintings made, in some cases, hundreds of years ago...

 

km

They may claim it but there's the question of originality which copyright requires. The CDPA is pretty clear about that. I don't know if it's been tested in the English courts but it has in the American, Bridgeman v. Corel 1999, and Bridgeman lost. Wikipedia also deny the principle.

Edited by spacecadet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.