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13 hours ago, Joseph Clemson said:

Some years ago I looked into the possibility of doing aerial work with a drone and decided that the investment involved in getting the CAA licence, the ongoing renewal and insurance costs plus the drone itself, was utterly prohibitive. If had had thrown caution to the wind and pursued that option I am absolutely certain I would not  have made the images I created available for pennies on microstock sites, even if it took months or years to get sales here at Alamy.

 

Play the long game for the best rewards and, equally important, to maintain the perceived value of the imagery you are going to great effort and expense to create. 

 

Thank you Joseph,

 

The fact is, if im getting paid to do a job, its in the t's and c's that the images will be uploaded to stock, so i may as well do it just for a little bonus if nothing else, i know what your saying and agree 100% with the ongoing costs of keeping it in the air legally, i certainly wouldn't have trained and obtained permissions if it was just a stock game, with the insurances being £700-£1000 a year it would take some serious sales just to make that back!

 

 

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Thanks to everyone else for the helpful comments. I have only being uploading since the end of september, so hopefully there is a sale that hasnt been made visible yet! As far as commercially saleability, i get that my images are going to sell less frequently than images of a girl using a phone in a suit for example, but there is still reasons for these images to sell i believe, its just the waiting game i suppose which inst much fun at all!!

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16 hours ago, Southmind said:

 Hi  Flyby !

 

We are in the same case...  910 images, 1030 views, 4 zooms (lol) and i started to upload at the beginning of September this year. The only difference is that about 500 of my photos are specific to Alamy and doesn't exists on MS. I am little tired of MS and would like to find fresh air here, so all my new shoots are exclusive to Alamy. I have no idea where I will go, but I want to try at least one year to see if I can sell something here. May be my images are not suitable for  Alamy or may be I am not in the good country but I want to try.

 

 

We are in a very similar boat by the sounds of it, i joined at the end of September. As others have said there may be a sale (fingers crossed) that hasn't become visible yet...

I may have a change of tact myself, say upload all new work to alamy, leave it for a month then upload to MS too??

Will have to have a think :)

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2 minutes ago, Flyby Photography said:

 

 upload all new work to alamy, leave it for a month then upload to MS too??

Will have to have a think :)

A month?

Editorial stock is a much longer game than that.

Only about 12% of my volume is from images taken this year, and it's November.

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37 minutes ago, Flyby Photography said:

 its just the waiting game

 

 

It's a business.

1: You do the market research, see what products are selling, to whom, where, and why....

2: You then decide what you can produce yourself given your skill levels, technical and creative resources,  and access...

3: You decide where to place your product based on the particular combination of 1 and 2 that you have settled on..

4: Repeat..

 

Too many aspiring stock photograhers neglect step 1, and just assume that the work they produce will somehow find a buyer

 

km

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2 minutes ago, RedSnapper said:

 

 

It's a business.

1: You do the market research, see what products are selling, to whom, where, and why....

2: You then decide what you can produce yourself given your skill levels, technical and creative resources,  and access...

3: You decide where to place your product based on the particular combination of 1 and 2 that you have settled on..

4: Repeat..

 

Too many aspiring stock photograhers neglect step 1, and just assume that the work they produce will somehow find a buyer

 

km

 

I run an aerial photography business, im not a stock photographer, but if these images are sitting on my computer collecting digital dust surely they are worth uploading? Im not taking generic 'stock' images per-se but they must still have some commercial value even if they sell less frequently than more conventional stock. 

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17 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

A month?

Editorial stock is a much longer game than that.

Only about 12% of my volume is from images taken this year, and it's November.

 

Thanks for this, i know that once they are on, they are on so it dosnt matter if it takes 10 years for an image to sell really, i know its not an overnight thing i would have just liked to see one license by now. Thanks for this tho im sure with a little time i will figure it all out what the best process is, and maybe even forget the micros all together, but im determined to get a payout now! which means i will have to keep uploading, currently on a whopping $8 on a micro site, with 3 downloads yesterday

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It took me 4 months and 400 images to get my first sale.  I'm now getting an average of 2 sales per month, so I'm happy enough, although obviously I yearn for more!  Be patient, keep uploading quality and tagging well and the sales will come.

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Hi every one,

 

      i'm  new one on Alamy how to reach on sales....i'm waiting my first sales long time....please see on my photos and give me you tips ( experiences ) Thanks.

1284 images,  1840 views, 4 zooms, 0 sales. 

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I've had a quick run through your 8 or 9 pages. There's no polite way to say this: this collection would have benefited from some pretty extreme editing from the start. There are some real gems in there, there are also a whole lot of pretty uninteresting similars of subjects which have been already well done by specialists. Dogs for instance. There are also a fair number of shots in desperate need of post processing. Dark and dull lit shots hardly ever sell when they are up against shots better processed or with better light.

 

As you are fairly new to Alamy, your CTR will be in the middle so your images will not likely be on the first pages of search results. Sadly, they will not likely be even seen. So that's where you need to concentrate; you need to improve your CTR and the best way to do that is to only upload your best images processed as best you can.

 

A bit harsh perhaps, but I assume you are hoping to make some sales. Aerial shots do sell but they need to be clear and dynamic. In many instances they can illustrate a subject better than any ground view but again, good lighting is essential. A little haze and you are really up against it

 

I note you have an unusually marked Labradoodle, I have a charming 9 year old doodle with the more usual curly black coat as you see from the little image as my avatar. Usually, it is best to show the whole dog not just the feet(?) or the snout

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2 hours ago, Flyby Photography said:

 

We are in a very similar boat by the sounds of it, i joined at the end of September. As others have said there may be a sale (fingers crossed) that hasn't become visible yet...

I may have a change of tact myself, say upload all new work to alamy, leave it for a month then upload to MS too??

Will have to have a think :)

 

Yes ... I will not upload the same images on Alamy than on micros. I will continue on micros,  but really slow down my uploads on the 4 top and stop totally on the rest . Anyway , I mainly sell old images (I started in 2006)  with very few exceptions, new stuff stay somewhere in the darkness of databases... I really prefer the concept of Alamy and find me stupid to not started to work here,  years ago.

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4 hours ago, Robert M Estall said:

 

As you are fairly new to Alamy, your CTR will be in the middle so your images will not likely be on the first pages of search results. Sadly, they will not likely be even seen. 

 

For general searches where there are thousands of competitors that is true. For searches for aerial scenery in the locations he is shooting maybe not.  This is not yet a saturated area except for the big cities (London aerial has 19700 results). 

 

E.G. Page 1 of 'leighton buzzard aerial' results are dominated by the OP. Though maybe not something searched for that often? 

 

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16 hours ago, Futterwithtrees said:

Please define micro-style imagery for a stock sales novice..

 

Generic styled, usually simple and to the point.  Used to often use plain backgrounds.

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