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1 hour ago, geogphotos said:

I buy perhaps one newspaper a week, no magazines, and hardly any new books. I use the internet and don't expect to pay a penny. I expect the websites I visit to have images but don't myself pay towards that content - I suppose it is all down to what advertising revenue the site can attract. And I don't think that many online newspaper sites are making any profit at all.

I spent a week recently at a major sporting event 'competing' with the big guys who had half a dozen or so of their employed photographers working as teams, staying in local hotels with the most expensive kit on the market. From what I can see from their websites their prices reflect this, and this is something I struggle to understand as to how 'we', as Alamy, don't get a greater share of this market. I'd like to think that my images were of a high enough quality to make them greater value for money. Yesterday a news story broke in relation to terrorist activity at my local airport, of which I have a number of images, so I took a look to see where images were sourced and once again they were from the agency with two letters and the one that rhymes with Betty. Clearly I'm missing something!

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29 minutes ago, Avpics said:

I spent a week recently at a major sporting event 'competing' with the big guys who had half a dozen or so of their employed photographers working as teams, staying in local hotels with the most expensive kit on the market. From what I can see from their websites their prices reflect this, and this is something I struggle to understand as to how 'we', as Alamy, don't get a greater share of this market. I'd like to think that my images were of a high enough quality to make them greater value for money. Yesterday a news story broke in relation to terrorist activity at my local airport, of which I have a number of images, so I took a look to see where images were sourced and once again they were from the agency with two letters and the one that rhymes with Betty. Clearly I'm missing something!

 

If you are an organisation that needs to have up to date images of sporting events then you're going to use a source that you know will deliver the images that you need. If they've got multiple photographers working there then they're pretty much guaranteed to deliver the right images.

 

I've no doubt that your images were at least as good as what the other agency provided, but I don't think that that is what matters, as good images are pretty much guaranteed.

 

But it goes beyond that one event. The buyers of those images will also be buyers of images from many, many other events, both sporting and other. They know that that agency will have coverage and will provide them with images, so that's who they use. 

 

I wouldn't even think about competing head on with the big guys unless I could become one of them. However, one of my biggest successes was at a relatively small sporting event (Sheffield Half Marathon) where something went wrong. The event wasn't of interest to the big guys, and I just got lucky and was in the right place at the right time. 

 

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I understand what you're saying - hence 'competing' rather than competing - but it's more about the stock pricing than the live event itself, with yesterday's news story as an example.

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31 minutes ago, Avpics said:

I understand what you're saying - hence 'competing' rather than competing - but it's more about the stock pricing than the live event itself, with yesterday's news story as an example.

 

I think it's inevitable that some agencies will command higher prices for the news images that they licence. The buyers are not just paying for the images, they are paying for the news image service - the reliability that they will be able to access images for most stories that break.

 

Whereas I might get lucky occasionally and get some unique images, those agencies will make sure that they get photographers on site to cover a developing story. If you are a consumer of news images on a continual basis, sticking with and supporting the agencies that are geared up to deliver across the news spectrum is understandable. If you go with a lower cost option you might save a few quid this time, but next time you might not get the pictures!

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3 hours ago, GS-Images said:

2) Lack of communication. Alamy look at this thread often yet there is no feedback at all. I know their response to that is always that it's a place for contributors to have discussions, but we should be told me about what's going on SOMEwhere, either here or a blog or bulk email. They come across so much worse than they probably really are, simply because they refuse to communicate with us.

 

If you deal with other agencies both specialist and general you would realise that Alamy are among the best at communicating particularly if you take the size of their operation into account.

 

We photographers are not partners in Alamys business and as such have no say in the detail of how they run their marketing operation. Much of this information is confidential and not for general dissemination on a public forum. Similarly they are hardly likely to email these details to their suppliers,many of which are in direct competition with them.

 

They do,however, offer the opportunity to email MS directly and usually reply thoughI doubt they are going to go into any detail on this particular subject going forward.

 

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