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Book of "Birds of Britain and Europe".

 

Allan

 

Uncommon but widespread in Europe.

 

Picture on RSPB looks like the female.

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Spacecadet,

Seen WWT Barnes London.

 

Allan,

Thanks, I should know that working in a library an' all.

We should have that in the library somewhere.

Janet

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33 minutes ago, GS-Images said:

You mentioned the WWT. They used to say in the T's and C's for the WWT near me in Arundel, that you cannot sell images taken there. However, the Arundel website now says that you can now make money from sales, but they ask that you donate a percentage of any profit to them. Of course with the view of the duck you have, there is no way to know where it was taken.....unless you mention it in the details of course.  :)

 

Geoff.

That's an unfair contract term if ever there was one. What do they think they own- the air the birds fly in?

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I couldn't find anything specific to Arundel, but the general WWT Ts and Cs have that thing about needing permission. It's so important to have a photography permit, of course- I'm sure it contributes greatly to "safety", which is one stated reason for having the Ts and Cs. So dangerous to take pictures without one.

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Interesting. Almost reasonable. Once you deduct your expenses in getting the pix, of course- £11 admission to Barnes, Tube fares.......

Worth screenshotting as it clearly overrides the more restrictive condition, even though it's not a condition. You could send a small image.

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1 hour ago, spacecadet said:

Interesting. Almost reasonable. Once you deduct your expenses in getting the pix, of course- £11 admission to Barnes, Tube fares.......

Worth screenshotting as it clearly overrides the more restrictive condition, even though it's not a condition. You could send a small image.

 

Now why don't the NT follow this idea?

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Hmmm, this could be difficult for stock. Would Alamy's formatting you to change the credit for one or a few images?

"We request the following:

That you include the name of the centre within any image credits (i.e. © Photographer Name / WWT [Centre Name] e.g. © Jo Bloggs / WWT Caerlaverock"

(Can it be done via pseudonyms?)

Even if they did, there's no guarantee that the end user would give any credits at all, or only Alamy credit, and that's almost certainly what they want - a callout in the end use for publicity.

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18 hours ago, spacecadet said:

Up to you-it's a wild animal. No-one owns it.

 

A South American species taken at a UK WWT reserve who own collections of non native ducks at nearly all their UK reserves. Even if they did not own the duck they certainly own the gravel its sitting on.

 

Regen

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Good grief I only wanted the name of a duck.

Now I have know idea what to do.

Think I'll just give in all together

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Don't worry about it. Just list it as RM. If you have it as your default you can ignore the "optional" settings.

You're perfectly entitled to offer that image for sale.

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The WWT policy now appears to have softened, but even without that there's no possible consequence. Unless the WWT prowl the libraries like the NT, and unless the WWT can prove they own every ringed teal in the country, and are fussy about photographs of their gravel, it's fine.

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13 hours ago, GS-Images said:

 

About 300 metres and the other side of the road to the WWT at Arundel, is a large private lake that's open to the public without having to pay to get in. A lot of the species of ducks/birds from the WWT fly over to that lake, and as you don't pay an entrance fee, you are not under any contract not to sell photos taken there.

These will be wild ducks which are free to visit Arundel or anywhere else they choose.

The non-native birds in the WWT collections won't be free-flying, or they'd just fly off.

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