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Terms here. Even outcasts such as yourself can read them.

 

 

 

Free and sub-licensable, basically. (6) is about syndication- interesting in the context of the Telegraph/Yahoo question on another thread. So not only giving it away, but giving away rights to sell it as well. Phew.

 

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/my/account/contributorterms/

 

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The legal copyright in the Work is retained by you. By your agreement to these Terms, you give us the rights in the Work which are set out below. Subject to these Terms and in particular the proviso for commissioned Work below, Our rights in the Work are non-exclusive, which means that you can also use the Work as you wish at the same time as we use it.

Where an original Work is specifically commissioned by us or you are a commissioned blogger or citizen journalist, you give us the exclusive right to first use of the Work in any medium as permitted by these Terms.  If there is a delay of more than 90 days from our receipt of the Work to its first use by us, then you may apply to the Editor for a written waiver of our exclusive right to first use, which will not be unreasonably refused.

While you retain copyright in the Work, We shall have the following rights (some of which may overlap), which are worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable and sub-licensable:

  1. the right to use and re-use the Work in any of our Publications;
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We reserve the right to seek from you a written assignment of copyright if we think it necessary.

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Have just joined the FB page...Would you mind if I shared your blog post on it? For as long as it lasts!

Maybe lots of us could do that and at least they'll be wasting time in checking and deleting posts..... :ph34r:

 

Phil

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I'll do the same when approved if that's OK. I'll wait until Phil's has been deleted.

BTW I believe the Rebublic of Paranoia still uses the kudos as currency. One kudos is divided into 100 rants.

They used to used molumbo beads until the molumbos complained about being chiselled into loose change.

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Have just joined the FB page...Would you mind if I shared your blog post on it? For as long as it lasts!

Maybe lots of us could do that and at least they'll be wasting time in checking and deleting posts..... :ph34r:

 

Phil

Feel free Phil, A few people from another FB group 'Stop working for free' joined, commented and were all banned.

Thanks to Mark for posting the TOS, I'll edit the blog post to include them.

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Have just joined the FB page...Would you mind if I shared your blog post on it? For as long as it lasts!

Maybe lots of us could do that and at least they'll be wasting time in checking and deleting posts..... :ph34r:

 

Phil

Feel free Phil, A few people from another FB group 'Stop working for free' joined, commented and were all banned.

Thanks to Mark for posting the TOS, I'll edit the blog post to include them.

 

 

Have tried, but its gone to admin for approval!!! Don't think thats going to happen ;)

 

However I did leave a comment on a post, and also posted the link in a comment, so that works for now :ph34r:

 

Phil

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Remember this;)

 

Cheers,

Philippe

 

Ta...Just posted that in the comments.... ;)

 

Phil

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They appear to be engaging with us. Interesting. I've already had one contributor say he didn't realise what he was giving away and considering deleting. Result. Even got a "like" from him, whatever that is.

 

Quite fun lobbing grenades about that group.

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Sadly, local rags have been doing this, in various guises for years. BBC Wales uses one every night during the weather forecast and the amateurs wet their pants every time one of theirs is used. Next step will be to charge the amateurs a small fee for the privilege of seeing their pictures used. Given the way Alamy is going, along with many other libraries they won't be long following. 

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Wow, my "membership" didn't last very long. Already kicked out after two minutes  :lol:

I wonder why?  :o

 

Cheers,

Philippe

I didn't spot any of your posts- care to post a link, if they haven't been deleted? I've annoyed someone already, he said he sold on SS and G and has 5 greetings cards with his images on them- I told him he should know better then.

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Looks like I've been ejected too.  :P

 

Phil

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They must be doing some checks now, my request was granted in minutes. They've obviously got wise to us. Still, fun while it lasted.

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Looks like they've got rid of me too.

Too bad, I was helping a lot of people calibrate their monitors.........or rather telling them they needed it.

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I haven't even tried to join but, you have to wonder how many people accepted in the group, who post photos, actually own the copyright to these images. For the most part, Facebook is a place for "photo sharers" and most of the images are low resolution photos  found elsewhere on the internet. They may find sourcing photos on FB is far more trouble than it's worth.

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I haven't even tried to join but, you have to wonder how many people accepted in the group, who post photos, actually own the copyright to these images. For the most part, Facebook is a place for "photo sharers" and most of the images are low resolution photos  found elsewhere on the internet. They may find sourcing photos on FB is far more trouble than it's worth.

 

One can only hope. Or it may be yet another source of infringements that we have to deal with :(:angry:

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A little off topic but I note the BBC show images from people contributing via "Weatherwatch".

 

Those images shown on the weather program are mostly termed by the presenter as "marvellous, beautiful," etc.

 

All I tend to see are images of flat landscapes with a bit of green grass, a bit of blue sky with a cloud or two and maybe a couple of trees.

 

Not much competition there then.

 

Allan

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