John Mitchell

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Just 2 sales this year but small amounts of money. Can someone tell me why here is supposed to be better than microstock then ?

 

Most importantly to me is pride. I'm a good photographer, it's about the only thing in my life I am confident about, and I deserve to be paid more than a few pence. I refuse to give my hard work and talent away for peanuts. If you're ONLY in it for the money and don't care what you actually get paid per photo, maybe Microstock is better.

 

One decent sale on Alamy could get you the same as 1000 on Microstock. I know which I'd prefer.

 

Geoff.

 

 

 

?!? Err yeah, pride don't pay the bills  :D

 

At the end of the day, this is the day job and the first and most important thing to think about is whether it is paying it's way. I have 2 ports, one that is here and one that is there..... the here includes ones that are there but not the other way round. There makes me a lot more money than here. I'd need to earn over 6k p/m here to be close (excl distributor sales).

 

Alamy is still worth it though, normally make a few hundred a month here but I look to sell the right work in the right shop so I can pay the bills, feed the family and keep a roof over my head. I'd strongly recommend keeping an open mind with regards to new technology, agencies and marketing techniques otherwise it's easy to be left behind.

 

Of course, if you don't need the money or it's just some extra pocket money then fair enough.

 

The music industry still sells cd's, mp3 files and vinyl, but that isn't the future. Subscription is where it's at and is taking off very quickly. If an artist or recording studio ignored this then it could prove costly. I'd imagine the cost per track on this business model will be a lot lower but, they'll be reaching many more people who wouldn't have listened to there material if it wasn't for the subscription model.

 

I'd love it to still be all based on vinyl sales etc but while its making a bit of a comeback, it isn't where the big money is now and it will never return to it's peak. It's glory days are over and the world we live in now is changing a lot faster than it used to.

 

Personally, I still buy some CDs but I listen to far more CD Hi-Def stuff via Tidal these days and found a load of bands I'd never been aware of before.

 

With regards to the OP..... yeah, this month has started off poor  :D

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And I thought that April was the cruellest month -- only one sale (a PU) showing on the board so far this month.

 

But it is only the 9th...

 

If your misery needs company, I'll throw myself in.

 

After great first three months (average 10 sales, $800+), my April sale dropped to two PUs for $30! Now this is almost half way through May, I have ONE sale, for $25. Views and zooms are consistently good, total CTR over 0.9 four months in a row. 

 

I wonder what I did to get into Alamy's dog house? This is WAY beyond normal fluctuation. 

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I've been steadily getting my usual low number of sales, and had a very good March ending with a $300 sale, and nothing since. But zooms have been good.

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Had a $73 sale today and an iPhone sale yesterday. Thanks Alamy!

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And I thought that April was the cruellest month -- only one sale (a PU) showing on the board so far this month.

 

But it is only the 9th...

 

If your misery needs company, I'll throw myself in.

 

After great first three months (average 10 sales, $800+), my April sale dropped to two PUs for $30! Now this is almost half way through May, I have ONE sale, for $25. Views and zooms are consistently good, total CTR over 0.9 four months in a row. 

 

I wonder what I did to get into Alamy's dog house? This is WAY beyond normal fluctuation. 

 

 

Similar pattern here. However, an OK (by today's standards) direct sale trickled in today, so I guess it's not time to panic just yet.

 

Hopefully, we're just seeing a spring slump, not the beginnings of another new normal.

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Had a $73 sale today and an iPhone sale yesterday. Thanks Alamy!

 

;-)

 

wim

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Oh how I wish I had the reason to write more in positives than beeing negative... This year is a disaster so far. Views and zooms are ok, much better than ever before, but it doesn't pay my bills. Sales are occassional, which is not normal for me. They used to be regular :( I feel like my collection stuck in some black hole where clients can get no in and if they do, it's just an accident. Not motivating.

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Oh how I wish I had the reason to write more in positives than beeing negative... This year is a disaster so far. Views and zooms are ok, much better than ever before, but it doesn't pay my bills. Sales are occassional, which is not normal for me. They used to be regular :( I feel like my collection stuck in some black hole where clients can get no in and if they do, it's just an accident. Not motivating.

 

I feel the same way Arletta. I think its a combination of the new algorithm and some businesses going elsewhere for their images. Add to that the influx of smaller agents distributing their images through Alamy and it suddenly becomes much harder for the likes of you and me to see regular sales. You're right, it is hard to stay motivated.

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Unfortunately, I think you're absolutely right!

 

 

 

 

I think its a combination of the new algorithm and some businesses going elsewhere for their images. Add to that the influx of smaller agents distributing their images through Alamy and it suddenly becomes much harder for the likes of you and me to see regular sales. 

 

 

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Unfortunately, I think you're absolutely right!

 

 

 

 

I think its a combination of the new algorithm and some businesses going elsewhere for their images. Add to that the influx of smaller agents distributing their images through Alamy and it suddenly becomes much harder for the likes of you and me to see regular sales. 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it looks like a whole new ballgame. Time to put the thinking caps back on...

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Disaster time, CTR through the floor, non relevant images beating mine to page one... time to give up?

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Disaster time, CTR through the floor, non relevant images beating mine to page one... time to give up?

 

Do you blame "discoverability" -- i.e. people packing images with too many keywords / tags?

 

P.S. I should add that I'm not noticing the irrelevant images phenomenon -- at least it doesn't seem to be a big problem -- with my collection.

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Pretty good so far.  6 sales in to date for reasonable money, zooms doing well, CTR well above the Alamy average.  Because a lot of my stuff is seasonal I think I'm benefitting from the 1000+ shots I uploaded last year.  Their time has come round.  Now, if only some of those elusive PU sales would drop in.

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Had a $100 sale on the second on May but it was cancelled and turned into a $40 one. 

Not a happy bunny.

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Disaster time, CTR through the floor, non relevant images beating mine to page one... time to give up?

 

Do you blame "discoverability" -- i.e. people packing images with too many keywords / tags?

 

P.S. I should add that I'm not noticing the irrelevant images phenomenon -- at least it doesn't seem to be a big problem -- with my collection.

 

 

I concluded early on that "discoverability" was irrelevant and haven't tried to "improve" mine. In real-world searches on my admittedly modest number of subjects, I rank very well, at least as well as before AIM.

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Pumping in lots of irrelevant keywords just to gain discoverabillity is not a good idea. Search placement on the contrary is everything. Having said that its very slow. I also believe its got to do with what kind of buyers an agency can attract. I joined another trad agency 6 months back, very specialized in my genre and they have sold more in these 6 months then Ive done here during 5 years!!.

Fair enough I have a much bigger portfolo there but still its horses for courses, specialized agency or sort of run of the mill.

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You could call it slow, but that implies some kind of movement. Sales have dropped by over 50% this year, none so far this month. I was getting ten to twelve sales per month last year. This year has just died. I can't see the point in revisiting my portfolio in response to the new AIM or search algorithm when we barely understand it, and there is no guarantee of rewards, let alone improved rewards. It seems the game is no longer worth the candle.

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After a little whining last week, two fair priced sales dropped in over the weekend. So they said, " Squeaking wheels get the grease".  :rolleyes:

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Disaster time, CTR through the floor, non relevant images beating mine to page one... time to give up?

 

Do you blame "discoverability" -- i.e. people packing images with too many keywords / tags?

 

P.S. I should add that I'm not noticing the irrelevant images phenomenon -- at least it doesn't seem to be a big problem -- with my collection.

 

I'm not sure John.

 

I started to go through my legacy images and 'get green' when they first introduced the new AIM by trying to maximise the keywords, and, because captions on general stock pictures weren't important before, I also tried to improve my older captions, BUT, I have found the AIM to be clunky, slow and hard on my eyes and time, so, I have almost given up bothering.

 

I will have more time in winter to re-start the tedious work of checking keywords captions etc, as I know some of my earlier subs were very badly keyworded!

 

I won't actually give up, and in fact I will try even harder to improve my images (which might be the real problem) when I have more time to invest.

A new RX100 MK3 is on it's way to me to improve my stock volume, and a drone is waiting to be collected, with a view to going commercial when, and if, I can afford the necessary qualification.

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Very slow May. One sale. Zooms trickling in, one every few days. I'm not used to seeing it this slow. I often get a clump of zooms every week, and usually 4-7 sales a month.

Disheartening.

Betty

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I too am having a grim May. After four bumper months, May is really poor. Just as I was about to go and put down the deposit on my Aston Martin. June is usually pretty good for me, so we'll see next month. 

Colin

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Another sale this morning. So whining DOES work!  :rolleyes:

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Zooms are at an all-time high and a sale popped in this morning - PU so nothing to get excited about, but I'm hoping the zooms where mine were the only images zoomed mean I'll see a good run of sales this summer. Still battling vertigo (since November) so nothing new to upload, have to work on getting more older images online. 

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Still slow, only 4 sales this month including two distributor leases, but a $199 direct sale arrived today. Things looking a tad better ( assuming no refund tomorrow...)

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