fotoDogue 564 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I just noticed early this morning that Alamy Prints is now live on some of my pages. Prices range from $14.99 USD for an 8x10 inches to U$ 79.99 USD for 54 x 26 inches. Images where I've restricted Personal Use don't have the red Print button. Any thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
NYCat 2,457 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I see that on mine, too. I haven't had overwhelming success with selling prints so I will wait and see about any restrictions. Can we assume that our buyers for other uses are not going to object to this? Paulette Link to post Share on other sites
vpics 660 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) Not on mine yet. Guess they're rolling it out in the US first. If anyone from Alamy is listening, it would be good to get a "one week notice or so" so that we can set the appropriate restrictions to images that we don't want to be sold as prints. Edited November 18, 2016 by vpics 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Kuta 168 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) They're selling prints? Yeah, I see...it goes to art.com. Do we know how much we get out of the listed prices? I have a few hundred images on a POD site (most of which are on Alamy) where I get more than the Alamy listed print price. Awaiting email from Alamy....... Awaiting changes to agreement to cover print sales...... Awaiting chance to opt out of this...... Edited November 19, 2016 by Bill Kuta 2 Link to post Share on other sites
John Mitchell 4,654 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Not on mine yet either. I believe we get 50% of whatever Alamy receives from art.com. Link to post Share on other sites
Arletta 367 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Bill Kuta, we already have another thread about the prints... Said enough there. I can't find it to show you, can anyone help or was it removed by Alamy (again?!)? Edited November 19, 2016 by Arletta Link to post Share on other sites
Callie 314 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 sorry I missed the other thread too, been away a while. These prices look ridiculously cheap compared to what I sell my own prints for - "Prices range from $14.99 USD for an 8x10 inches to U$ 79.99 USD for 54 x 26 inches." - do we know what percentage of this we get? And do we have an answer yet from Alamy as to the whether opting out of personal use / print sales results in us opting out of distribution? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MDM 1,819 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) It sorry I missed the other thread too, been away a while. These prices look ridiculously cheap compared to what I sell my own prints for - "Prices range from $14.99 USD for an 8x10 inches to U$ 79.99 USD for 54 x 26 inches." - do we know what percentage of this we get? And do we have an answer yet from Alamy as to the whether opting out of personal use / print sales results in us opting out of distribution? I had a German distributor sale recently of an image that is opted out of personal use. Whether that is universal or not I don't know. Opting out of personal use means that you automatically opt out of print sales and having seen these prices I'm not unhappy at that. It's being implemented for American contributors first it seems. Clearly one is selling a very cheap licence if the baseline price is $14.99 for a 10x8" print, shared between Art.com, Alamy and the contributor. It would seem very unlikely that the contributor cut would rise with the size/price of the Art.com product. Edited November 19, 2016 by MDM 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chrumu 292 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Could anyone post a link to a picture where this feature is activated already? I didn't find it on any picture yet. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Callie 314 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 We're supposed to get 50% of what Alamy get, but are those prices quoted from Art.com or from Alamy? If from Art.com and someone pays $14.99 to them, it won't leave much left over from the printing to pay Alamy, then 50% of that goes to us. Could it be that the $14.99 is if you supply your own images to Art.com, but if you choose one from Alamy you'll be charged more? I cannot yet see this facility myself, so can't check out how it all works. Geoff. I would have assumed that is the price the customer pays - so yes we get very low priced peanuts. I just looked on Art.com, 25% off site wide today, if they frequently do these deals as a lot of POD sites seem to, then we get even less. Its hard to see how prices are set on art.com, is it fixed or did Alamy set these prices? It sorry I missed the other thread too, been away a while. These prices look ridiculously cheap compared to what I sell my own prints for - "Prices range from $14.99 USD for an 8x10 inches to U$ 79.99 USD for 54 x 26 inches." - do we know what percentage of this we get? And do we have an answer yet from Alamy as to the whether opting out of personal use / print sales results in us opting out of distribution? I had a German distributor sale recently of an image that is opted out of personal use. Whether that is universal or not I don't know. Opting out of personal use means that you automatically opt out of print sales and having seen these prices I'm not unhappy at that. It's being implemented for American contributors first it seems. Clearly one is selling a very cheap licence if the baseline price is $14.99 for a 10x8" print, shared between Art.com, Alamy and the contributor. It would seem very unlikely that the contributor cut would rise with the size/price of the Art.com product. thats encouraging re the German distributor, would be good to get confirmation from Alamy though, I seriously want to opt out of this appalling deal but don't want to lose distribution. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
fotoDogue 564 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Could anyone post a link to a picture where this feature is activated already? I didn't find it on any picture yet. Thanks When I view your photos I can see the print option, in US dimensions and US currency, so it must be only available to buyers in the US, at this point. Edited November 19, 2016 by fotoDogue 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allan Bell 2,409 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Could anyone post a link to a picture where this feature is activated already? I didn't find it on any picture yet. Thanks Here's one of mine with the print option though it may depend on your location rather than mine. Edit: When I view your photos I can see the print option so it must be available to buyers in the US. Print option not showing in the UK. Allan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Quist 688 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Could anyone post a link to a picture where this feature is activated already? I didn't find it on any picture yet. Thanks Here's one of mine with the print option though it may depend on your location rather than mine. Edit: When I view your photos I can see the print option so it must be available to buyers in the US. Print option not showing in the UK. Allan Nor in Denmark. Probably goes for all EU countries and those still members. Edited November 19, 2016 by Niels Quist Link to post Share on other sites
John Mitchell 4,654 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Not visible in Canada either. The system must be rigged. Must be rigged. Edited November 19, 2016 by John Mitchell 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Paulw 30 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Yes, only in the USA so far. I connected through an encrypted proxy service in New York and found all the images come up with a 'print' button. Time for me to start adding restrictions I'm afraid...... Paul Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbro 289 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Yeah, America first, you'd better believe it! Trump is doing for us. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Ed Rooney 3,622 Posted November 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2016 No politics in the forum, Texasman. 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbro 289 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Oh, please chill. We have to live it. Link to post Share on other sites
John Mitchell 4,654 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Oh, please chill. We have to live it. ... and hopefully we all will. Amen. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Kuta 168 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Getting back to Alamy Prints... I asked Alamy about opting out of prints, and they said the way to do that is to turn off Novel Use for each image. I think this should be under Additional Revenue Options because, well, it's an additional revenue option. (Also must admit, I've only ever used the old Manage Images and wouldn't trust myself making a global change with the new Manage Images.) Link to post Share on other sites
Alamy 572 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Getting back to Alamy Prints... I asked Alamy about opting out of prints, and they said the way to do that is to turn off Novel Use for each image. I think this should be under Additional Revenue Options because, well, it's an additional revenue option. (Also must admit, I've only ever used the old Manage Images and wouldn't trust myself making a global change with the new Manage Images.) Hi Bill, Just to jump in here, that's not what we said. You need to add restrictions for personal use within Manage Images. Best, Alamy Link to post Share on other sites
Callie 314 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Alamy could you also answer whether opting out of personal use means you will be opted out of all distribution? thanks 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SFL 161 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Alamy could you also answer whether opting out of personal use means you will be opted out of all distribution? thanks Yes, I also remember reading what Callie said. Interested in hearing Alamy's reply. Sung Link to post Share on other sites
Alamy 572 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Alamy could you also answer whether opting out of personal use means you will be opted out of all distribution? thanks At the moment, it's technically very challenging to ensure third party distributors have the restrictions visible to them, so it means we remove images that are restricted from the distribution pool to make sure the collection is 'safe'. We are however working to fix this for images that have personal use restrictions only, and it may be that we can work around this with certain distributors shortly - so it's not a definitive yes or no. This is on our project list so no timeframes can be given at this point. Cheers Alamy Link to post Share on other sites
Callie 314 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 thanks for answering Alamy - certainly do hope you can fix this one. Surely allowing an opt out of sales at art.com would be fairly simple for starters? Link to post Share on other sites
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