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Fujinon lens profile for Fuji 35mm f/1.4 only correcting chromatic aberration in Adobe ACR, not distortion

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Can anyone think of a reason why Adobe ACR (latest cc version) is only correcting for chromatic aberration when opening RAF (RAW) files from Fuji X-T1 with 35mm f/1.4 lens and not applying a correction for distortion or vignetting?

 

There is no separate lens profile available as I understand it, Adobe simply apply what Fuji supply in the RAF file. An information box bottom right corner in ACR confirms it "The RAW file contains a built-in lens profile for correcting chromatic aberration. The profile has already been applied automatically to this image." 

 

I have seen other people comment that the box (for other Fuji lenses) sometimes states "chromatic aberration and vignetting". When I open RAF files from my Fuji 50-140mm f/2.8 the box states "distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting".

 

Are Fuji suggesting that the 35mm f/1.4 is free from distortion? It clearly isn't, I use it every day to document books and artwork, almost always with lots of vertical and horizontal lines in the subject, and there is often very significant distortion (barrel). At the moment I have to adjust the distortion manually which is very time consuming.

 

I have the latest firmware loaded in the X-T1 body and in the lens, and am using the very latest version of Photoshop CC and ACR.

 

Any ideas?

 

Marc

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There is better correction in LR. The Upright tool. If you have CC, it's available to you. I have shot Fuji X-T1 since it came out. I don't have your lens but have the 10-24, which has distortion. LR works most of the time.

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Hi Betty,

 

Yes of course you can correct barrel distortion manually in Photoshop cc or LR but that takes time. When you are processing large quantities of images every day that becomes an issue. 

 

It would appear from more research that Fuji have not bothered with distortion correction in the lens profile for the 35mm f/1.4 lens because they consider it insignificant. Apparently, on the new 35mm f/2 lens you get up to 3.5% barrel distortion when you switch the automatic lens correction off in Capture One, that's serious distortion! With my 35mm f/1.4 lens I'm sometimes having to adjust up to +8 on barrel distortion in PS cc. It is possibly because I end up shooting at F16 in the studio most of the time and perhaps that exaggerates distortion. 

 

It raises the issue though that Fuji are "hiding" an awful lot of inherent weakness in some of their lenses by using automatic software correction. Without it, nobody would buy these lenses. A standard Canon 50mm lens (fairly cheap) of today would outperform the Fuji 35mm f/1.4 or f/2 by a mile, without hidden correction and at a fraction of the price.

 

Having said that, the 50-140mm f/2.8 is awesome and is top quality, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned. And I love my X-T1, it has completely rejuvenated my love for photography.

 

Marc

Edited by famousbelgian

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Hi Betty,

 

Yes of course you can correct barrel distortion manually in Photoshop cc or LR but that takes time. When you are processing large quantities of images every day that becomes an issue. 

 

It would appear from more research that Fuji have not bothered with distortion correction in the lens profile for the 35mm f/1.4 lens because they consider it insignificant. Apparently, on the new 35mm f/2 lens you get up to 3.5% barrel distortion when you switch the automatic lens correction off in Capture One, that's serious distortion! With my 35mm f/1.4 lens I'm sometimes having to adjust up to +8 on barrel distortion in PS cc. It is possibly because I end up shooting at F16 in the studio most of the time and perhaps that exaggerates distortion. 

 

It raises the issue though that Fuji are "hiding" an awful lot of inherent weakness in some of their lenses by using automatic software correction. Without it, nobody would buy these lenses. A standard Canon 50mm lens (fairly cheap) of today would outperform the Fuji 35mm f/1.4 or f/2 by a mile, without hidden correction and at a fraction of the price.

 

Having said that, the 50-140mm f/2.8 is awesome and is top quality, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned. And I love my X-T1, it has completely rejuvenated my love for photography.

 

Marc

 

I wouldn't say Fuji, or anyone else, are "hiding it".

 

It is the current approach, Hasselblad were one of the first to use software to correct aberations (in a wide angle originally) - now we are nearly all digital it opens up new possibilities. It simply wasn't possible with film. It is presumably a whole lot more cost effective, and possible, than spending a huge amount more time to correct optically which would produce harder to manufacture and more expensive lenses. For all but the most hyper-critical purposes the current software correction is plenty good enough; most users (rpofessional or amateur) would not notice, unless they go looking for it by not using the software correction, or if they use a software corrected lens with film.

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If you are likely to be spending a lot of time on corrections it might be worth creating your own profile.  Adobe have a free Lens Profile Creator tool which, according to their website, enables "easy creation" of lens profiles.

 

I've never used it so I've no idea what's involved but it might be worth a look.  The link is to the Windows version but I think there's a Mac version as well.....

 

https://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5490

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Hi Betty,

 

Yes of course you can correct barrel distortion manually in Photoshop cc or LR but that takes time. When you are processing large quantities of images every day that becomes an issue.

 

It would appear from more research that Fuji have not bothered with distortion correction in the lens profile for the 35mm f/1.4 lens because they consider it insignificant. Apparently, on the new 35mm f/2 lens you get up to 3.5% barrel distortion when you switch the automatic lens correction off in Capture One, that's serious distortion! With my 35mm f/1.4 lens I'm sometimes having to adjust up to +8 on barrel distortion in PS cc. It is possibly because I end up shooting at F16 in the studio most of the time and perhaps that exaggerates distortion.

 

It raises the issue though that Fuji are "hiding" an awful lot of inherent weakness in some of their lenses by using automatic software correction. Without it, nobody would buy these lenses. A standard Canon 50mm lens (fairly cheap) of today would outperform the Fuji 35mm f/1.4 or f/2 by a mile, without hidden correction and at a fraction of the price.

 

Having said that, the 50-140mm f/2.8 is awesome and is top quality, it is one of the best lenses I have ever owned. And I love my X-T1, it has completely rejuvenated my love for photography.

 

Marc

Marc, I've been following the discussions on the Fuji X forum about the 35mm f2, and some love it, some hate it. I won't buy a lens when I hear that. Your experience is good to know.

I agree about the 50-140. It's brilliant. The best of the lot.

Edited by Betty LaRue

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Does an ACR profile exist for this lens? I have a number of older Nikon lenses and had to download profiles for ACR. Some of these profiles seem to be User Created so it's possible nobody's created one yet.

I've also found these profiles aren't always available. Sometimes PhotoShop asks me if I want to download one. Other times it doesn't.

Adobe offers software so you can create your own profiles. They're a few years old but I'd imagine they still work.

 

Mac Version

https://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5489

 

Windows Version

https://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=192&platform=Windows

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Your experience seems quite different than Klaus Schroiff's. He writes: "The Fujinon shows only a tiny bit of barrel distortion which is hardly noticeable. This is also true for RAW files so it is actually a fully corrected lens."

 

http://www.photozone.de/fuji_x/746-fuji35f14?start=1

 

edit: name misspelling

Edited by DDoug

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Thank you for the comments.

 

I have downloaded the Adobe Lens Profile Creator and Downloader software and will have a go at putting a lens profile together for the X-T1 & 35mm f/1.4 combination. Someone else made one for this lens but with the X-E1 body, I tried it but it is obviously not right for use with X-T1 images.

 

Thank you

 

Marc

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