Jump to content
Paulw

For info - over enthusiastic security

Recommended Posts

Needs a mass photo shoots from the public road! ;)

 

Noble should have made a complaint to the police about his treatment.

Edited by Martin P Wilson
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The goons have been well trained- they know they can't touch people but that interfering with property is debatable as a criminal offence. Hence the hand on the tripod. Perhaps the officers told them the facts of life.

Still outrageous that they are so ignorant though- this sort of nonsense is all but extinct in the South-East. The northern powerhouse needs its legal batteries charged up.

Edited by spacecadet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's such a difficult one - the guys from the port obviously handle it extremely badly, totally over the top. However, there are circumstances where they should be vigilant and report odd activity. There are always going to be situations of over reach... Ultimately the balance at the moment probably isn't too bad and won't be so long as photographers keep asserting their rights... and posting the videos on YouTube. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Naturally your average terrorist is going to conduct hostile reconnaissance in plain sight with a fluid-head tripod and a DSLR. Why be inconspicuous with a camera phone?

By over-reacting, pillocks like these actually make it less likely that suspicious activity will be uncovered.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Since he has on record the security guard's comment that he cannot leave the scene, the tog has clearly been detained unlawfully. He should sue them and their employer.

Edited by Russell
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That is ridiculous, typical short man security guard syndrome!

 

Maybe because Mr Noble is young, the boneheads thought they had a nice easy job. Of course terrorism is a threat, but if your security guard can't assess a situation and ask someone what he was doing and ascertain what Mr Noble is up to, I'm pretty sure a terrorist would have a better plan and not be acting suspiciously with a tripod and a camera?

 

He could have said it, or questioned in so many ways, but it was a classic bullying act.

 

When terrorists start wandering around with cameras attached to tripods, they might be justified, by the way, I'm not sure how you can act suspiciously with a tripod, unless he was waking down the street swinging it at people!

 

At least the police seemed to have a better handle on it.

 

I'm pretty sure terrorist have access to the internet, Google maps shows more than the lads video, ridiculous & with security guards "protecting" us in such way, heaven help us.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If a few of these heavy-handed and ignorant security guards were charged with wasting police time the message would soon get through. But they're not going to be, are they, despite the fact that they've clearly done so?

 

Alan

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So the security guards are terrorising the photographer.

 

Allan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Since he has on record the security guard's comment that he cannot leave the scene, the tog has clearly been detained unlawfully. He should sue them and their employer.

That's arguable.. Detention doesn't require laying on of hands, it can be by words or behaviour. If two men told me I wasn't going where I wanted to go, and one interfered with my property, I'd certainly say I'd been intimidated into remaining. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) it was only for a short period. Not much mileage for an ambulance-chaser.

If there's enough publicity to make the Port of Tyne look like twerps that'll help.

Edited by spacecadet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If a few of these heavy-handed and ignorant security guards were charged with wasting police time the message would soon get through. But they're not going to be, are they, despite the fact that they've clearly done so?

 

Alan

So difficult (I am NOT defending them) - you don't want to put people off reporting what they perceive to be suspicious, however misguided/incompetent they may be. Being more practical, perhaps it's the employer who should really be in trouble for not training them adequately? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No but we do want to put them off intimidating photographers. The authorities have form for this in the UK but the police usually know the facts of life now and it's high time private so-called security did.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

If a few of these heavy-handed and ignorant security guards were charged with wasting police time the message would soon get through. But they're not going to be, are they, despite the fact that they've clearly done so?

 

Alan

So difficult (I am NOT defending them) - you don't want to put people off reporting what they perceive to be suspicious, however misguided/incompetent they may be. Being more practical, perhaps it's the employer who should really be in trouble for not training them adequately? 

 

 

True. And because it's not on their own territory they should call the cops. Just like I have to do when it's not in my garden. I can walk up though and ask the person politely what his/her business is. Offer some help maybe ;-)

It's these hi-viz jackets. That's why I have one in my car too.

 

wim

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It really makes you wonder about security and their attitude to cameras, when you can case a place much easier on Google. Like this Nuclear power station.

 

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Pickering,+ON/@43.8094172,-79.0689461,1207m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89d4d9abfae88d1d:0x4bd24862b12786d8!6m1!1e1?hl=en

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

...........and you can see everything the complainant could see of the Port from here, where he put his tripod.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9784846,-1.4462645,3a,75y,308.9h,91.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_Xms6NeCg6WMaBmNetVzFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

The Google car even drove past the barrier.

Edited by spacecadet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

...........and you can see everything the complainant could see of the Port from here, where he put his tripod.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9784846,-1.4462645,3a,75y,308.9h,91.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_Xms6NeCg6WMaBmNetVzFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

The Google car even drove past the barrier.

That's really hilarious!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did say

 

 

...........and you can see everything the complainant could see of the Port from here, where he put his tripod.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9784846,-1.4462645,3a,75y,308.9h,91.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_Xms6NeCg6WMaBmNetVzFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

The Google car even drove past the barrier.

That's really hilarious!

 

I did say Google maps had a better view, but I meant the photographers view and of course, they can travel the perimeter. Why go there Friday afternoon, it's always cold in the North East, (or whenever I've visited) when they can sit in a local cafe, or at home etc? 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9782795,-1.4462056,3a,75y,351.51h,76.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snoFjNAEqtdXi1PvIraUraQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

But of course a terrorist wouldn't do that would he, he'd roll up with a tripod

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Funny when the filming guy says to the security bloke 'You've got lovely blue eyes. Tired eyes' . That shuts him up for a bit !

 

If businesses, organisations etc. don't want their signs/ shop window displays/ logos/ here we are type of stuff etc. to be seen by others......

....then don't put up signs/ shop window displays/ logos/ here we are type of stuff etc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd expect security guards to know that. In this case the ignorance was about the extent of the restricted area but it might occasionally get one out of a sticky spot.

One wonders why he didn't dial 999 himself when he was effectively detained.

Edited by spacecadet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

Thanks John, I've just printed myself a copy. 

 

 

 

Thanks from me too.

 

I have printed four copies, just in case. ;)

 

Allan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

 

Thanks John, I've just printed myself a copy. 

 

 

 

Thanks from me too.

 

I have printed four copies, just in case. ;)

 

Allan

 

I have filed and printed a copy for my camera bags.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd expect security guards to know that. In this case the ignorance was about the extent of the restricted area but it might occasionally get one out of a sticky spot.

One wonders why he didn't dial 999 himself when he was effectively detained.

He was using his phone to film the 'heavies'.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

I'd expect security guards to know that. In this case the ignorance was about the extent of the restricted area but it might occasionally get one out of a sticky spot.

One wonders why he didn't dial 999 himself when he was effectively detained.

He was using his phone to film the 'heavies'.

 

Ah.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.