IDP Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 If anybody is interested, there seems to have been a re-rank today for the first time since July 30th last year. Ian D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Convery Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'm happy, still in the same place near the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Indeed so... and I'm on page 2. Phew... I'm getting altitude sickness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Ramsay Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Up to page 2 for me too - haven't been there for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Not moved an inch after my best year so I'll stop bothering with it, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Lewis Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Dropped to Page 9 even after my best year ??? but OK in "Normal Searches" news and zooms ok??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov makabaw Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Dropped a page, no big deal. Must do an overdue review and clear out non performers to recover. dov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Up to page 2 for me too - haven't been there for a while I made room for you! I dropped from page 2 to page 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Clemson Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 How many images per page are we basing this page count on - the default seems to be 100 nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Unchanged except for one pseudonym that has dropped four pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 My worst pseudonym is now my best ... and vice versa. Oh, my brain hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Fagundes Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Sorry for the question, but, how do you know your ranking or your psedonyms ranking? By using the BHZ game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mayall Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 All much the same for me, i cannot see any changes, the corporate agencies still seem to be running within the 1st 10 images on the first page, even though some of their keywords are irrelevant to the given images, kinda makes me wonder how the ranking system works, i have a sneaky suspicion it is more to do with quantity of sales than perfect key wording to get into the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Sorry for the question, but, how do you know your ranking or your psedonyms ranking? By using the BHZ game? Put BHZ at the start of the essential keywords in ONE image per pseudonym. After tomorrow's update find your image by searching BHZ with page set to 100. It only gives you an idea of where you are ranked and is most useful if you have more than one pseudo so you can see how they compare. Alamy doesn't really approve of the BHZ game and many will say it's a waste of time compared to doing real searches but many others find it useful, myself included. Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultanpepa Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Up from page seven to midway on page one. Now how did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Fagundes Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Sorry for the question, but, how do you know your ranking or your psedonyms ranking? By using the BHZ game? Put BHZ at the start of the essential keywords in ONE image per pseudonym. After tomorrow's update find your image by searching BHZ with page set to 100. It only gives you an idea of where you are ranked and is most useful if you have more than one pseudo so you can see how they compare. Alamy doesn't really approve of the BHZ game and many will say it's a waste of time compared to doing real searches but many others find it useful, myself included. Pearl Thank you Pearl, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 My worst pseudonym is now my best ... and vice versa. Oh, my brain hurts. Same here, Very strange... Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Up from p2 to p1 - first time ever at that dizzy height Kumar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 My worst pseudonym is now my best ... and vice versa. Oh, my brain hurts. Same here, Very strange... Phil Very strange indeed. Dropped from page two to ................... bloody nine Contacted MS. Doesn't look right at all. The drop is certainly not in accordance to my sales / daily uploads / steady CTR. Cheers, Philippe (NOT amused!) I know that on at least 1 previous occasion they got the ranking wrong and re did it. Will be interesting to hear MS response.... Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 All much the same for me, i cannot see any changes, the corporate agencies still seem to be running within the 1st 10 images on the first page, even though some of their keywords are irrelevant to the given images, kinda makes me wonder how the ranking system works, i have a sneaky suspicion it is more to do with quantity of sales than perfect key wording to get into the top 10. Where do you see agencies in 1-10? I don't even see those under the Creative tab. There are some agencies that have bhz for a couple of their contributors, but not a whole lot. There are some individual contributors that have agency status. Some by coincidence (things were not that clear at the start) some because they have images from assistants; wives or children (David Kilpatrick comes to mind). And then there are a couple of individual contributors that look like an agency. Either by producing huge amounts of images or by having a huge amount of pseudo's. Or by having a agency-like name, like artpartner-images.com or eye35.pix. Both just individual photographers AFAIK and easily identifiable with only minor googling. Now why some are overtaking others, that is the million dollar question. People with more than one pseudo, where the worst pseudo overtakes the best, are in a very good position to find out why that has happened. May they share their knowledge with us. People with BME or even BYE, are being overtaken by others that have done even better. I see some of those, who are not present in BHZ, overtake me in real searches. And very quickly too. I've noticed two of those come from the micro's and are taking Alamy by storm. If you watch the monthly Found Images threads closely, you will have probably seen a couple more already. Now for the hard part: can we/I do something about it? Why are they selling better and coming up higher on my best subjects? Simple answer: clients like their images more. Now that's a very big OOOOOPS. wim edit: disclaimer I have no idea if David has agency status. He does have a wife and children who are also photographers or have been at some point. You probably know the feeling: my wife standing next to me with her phone makes a better image then I do. Or at the end of the day, has far more interesting images to show. Oops again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 People with more than one pseudo, where the worst pseudo overtakes the best, are in a very good position to find out why that has happened. May they share their knowledge with us. Happened to me, but I have absolutely no idea why/how...Just doesn't make sense. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 People with more than one pseudo, where the worst pseudo overtakes the best, are in a very good position to find out why that has happened. May they share their knowledge with us. Happened to me, but I have absolutely no idea why/how...Just doesn't make sense. Phil A simple proxy is the amount of views divided by sales (of one pseudo). It's not perfect, but a good number that you have easily access to and can check on a monthly basis. Even daily, if you sell enough. Think of it as CTR for sales ;-) It's definitely not one on one with rank though. But it will show your progress very easily and quite accurately. With Pseudonym Summary, you can even plot the numbers for each month or week for the past year. wim edit: Err.. not just progress... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 People with more than one pseudo, where the worst pseudo overtakes the best, are in a very good position to find out why that has happened. May they share their knowledge with us. Happened to me, but I have absolutely no idea why/how...Just doesn't make sense. Phil A simple proxy is the amount of views divided by sales (of one pseudo). It's not perfect, but a good number that you have easily access to and can check on a monthly basis. Even daily, if you sell enough. Think of it as CTR for sales ;-) It's definitely not one on one with rank though. But it will show your progress very easily and quite accurately. With Pseudonym Summary, you can even plot the numbers for each month or week for the past year. wim edit: Err.. not just progress... ;-) OK, With figures from 1/7/2015 to date: Number 1 Psuedo: Views/Sales = 1557.37 Number 2 Pseudo: Views/Sales = 5119 Still don't see the How/Why of reversal of Pseudo position.... Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 My worst pseudonym is now my best ... and vice versa. Oh, my brain hurts. Same here, Very strange... Phil Very strange indeed. Dropped from page two to ................... bloody nine Contacted MS. Doesn't look right at all. The drop is certainly not in accordance to my sales / daily uploads / steady CTR. Cheers, Philippe (NOT amused!) I know that on at least 1 previous occasion they got the ranking wrong and re did it. Will be interesting to hear MS response.... Phil Got an answer from MS. Sit down 'cause you ain't gonna believe it: I should keyword better "The key to success on Alamy is to have a well edited and well keyworded collection to make sure the right images are appearing in front of the right customer." I N C R E D I B L E !!!!! They sure know how to demotivate people. Cheers, Philippe Sounds like major avoidance of looking at the problem and just giving out stock answer.... Not good.... Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 If I do the BHZ, I have dropped from page 5 to 9 and there are 3155. Yet if I do a search for CN tower, the first one I noticed of mine was on page 5 and there are almost 5,000 images of the tower. So how does that make any sense? Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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