Bryan Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Maybe they're going into business selling photos of their own logos in order to offset that £x billion Libor fine? Strangely, if you do a search on that issue you see loads of photos of the logo, from big G, Reuters and uncle Tom Cobbley and all...... but, Eddo is right, it's not worth the risk for a couple of $3 Net DM website sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov makabaw Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Sounds like another knee jerk reaction to some twerp trying to impress their employer. No doubt it will settle down once the twerp is promoted to doing some real work! dov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmillskies Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I've had London Underground logo's taken down in the past, where they were just the roundel against a blue sky - but do a search and you still find plenty of them in a similar style. It does seem a bit random when some are taken down and others are left, but perhaps they are newer images and missed the last cull. Logo's are everywhere from the beer can still life to High Street images with banks, shops and all other manner of businesses. Martin www.windmillskies.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Now the sites updated and still there are plenty of Barclays logos on the first page, under the creative and relevant tabs. I wish they would at least be consistent. Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertSnapper Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 If it's a Barclays thing then maybe us/Alamy should let the media use the Barclays images for free. Newspaper fees are rubbish anyway. That way the Barclays lawyers can't argue that images showing the bank's property are being used commercially (if that's their reasoning). And the media can have pictures of Barclays to use when the banks are up to no good - and so the lawyers will have to send the threatening letters to the newspapers instead, which would create some more good bad publicity for the banks ! Pie in the sky I know. It's all about controlling their image, repressing negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Mmm, the business pages and the specialist press use logos all the time. How else do you illustrate a piece about XYC plc when they win a new order, or are fined for misselling, or cheating emissions testing?I don't get why the lawyers are on the case at all - is it so they can be seen to be doing something, anything? As someone else said logos are put out widely to create brand awareness. And what happened to the idea of there being no such thing as bad publicity (that said VW might not agree). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 If the images are RM, then I don't see how they can object as they could only be used commercially with permission from Barclays. Are Barclays going to risk even more bad publicity by suing Alamy over this? I doubt it. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 At least Alamy isn't taking it lying down as they seem to have have in the past and are actually taking advice on it. It's legally sensible of them to take down the images meanwhile. I wonder if they've only acted on images referred to in a lawyer's letter, hence the inconsistency- it's Barclay's inconsistency, not Alamy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I had two removed. They were of the Bank's sign on the outside of the building. They were shot up against a blue sky and had plenty of copy space so not just the logo filling the frame. Both unreleased and RM. Clearly Alamy have to protect their business however if it became common it could be the thin edge of the wedge. For example: How do you illustrate a photo about Google or Facebook without in someway having that logo clearly in the frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Yes...Barclays. Had this from Image Management as mine is a shot of a museum piece! C4HH2E, and I suggested they reconsider their decision. We can't see it- it's been removed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Yes...Barclays. Had this from Image Management as mine is a shot of a museum piece! C4HH2E, and I suggested they reconsider their decision. We can't see it- it's been removed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hmmm... I thought that the purpose of a logo was to get your brand out there in the public eye. Quite right John but the logo owners do not want you to make money from their logo. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Mine mostly relate to .. (er, am I actually allowed to mention the high street bank's name?) the London Boris bikes with the name of the previous sponsor. No message yet about deletion. And on the wider subject of deletion requests, I was contacted by Alamy a few years ago about a couple of pictures of an elderly lady resting on the bed in a London hospital. My visit was fully-sanctioned and a release was secured by the press officer - a condition of the assignment visit for a colour supp. Anyway, a relative of the lady contacted Alamy, upset that their late-mother's picture on sale. It was pointed out to me that it would be good idea to agree to deletion which I agreed to with great regret as it was a good-seller. I hadn't done anything wrong and I believe I was under no compulsion, other than a moral reason and the respect of a deceased person, to have it taken down. I just think that sometimes, we should step back from too quickly agreeing to take-downs. That said, a letter from a legal beagle generally makes one, as the saying goes, 'focus the mind'. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 But agreement is not being sought. They're just being removed. I would be dischuffed as sales notwithstanding there's an investment of time in every image. But this not being the US I'm sure no-one is going to sue Alamy for doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brooks Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Don’t get mad get even. Use the power of the press. Make it your mission to take as many embarrassing negative images of the Barclay logo as you can. Things like dog pissing on the logo. Logo hanging crooked by a thread. Logo looking dirty. Logo on a trash heap. Logo with a very fat cat sitting on top. Logo with the devil superimposed. Logo on a bank branch being demolished by wreckers. Be creative. Do not send them in to Alamy, but every time there is bad news about Barclay, attach an appropriate image to an email, and mass email it to every picture desk in the UK. It will be used. You will not receive the usual $5 royalty, but you will feel much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhandol Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Me too, a Barclays one showing the corner of my netbook with their website logo visible. They (the bank) probably have some school interns in and have given them the mind numbing job of traulling the net for images containing their logo, and sending out threatening legal schpeal to agencies. ......great idea Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I'm sorry . . . but what are the latest rules about including logos in the frame for Alamy? Are all these going to be deleted? http://www.alamy.com/search.html?CreativeOn=1&adv=1&ag=0&all=1&creative=&et=0x000000000000000000000&vp=0&loc=0&qt=logo&qn=&lic=6&lic=1&imgt=0&archive=1&dtfr=&dtto=&hc=&selectdate=&size=0xFF&aqt=&epqt=&oqt=&nqt=>ype=0 Edo, Brooklyn renegade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Interesting thread. An old image of mine with a Barclays bank building in it leased just last week. It's not a logo shot per se, but the name of the bank is visible. There is a street market going on in front of the bank, which might have interested the photo buyer more than the building -- i.e. there is plenty of "context." P.S. It was for "Commercial presentation" use, whatever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I'm sorry . . . but what are the latest rules about including logos in the frame for Alamy? Are all these going to be deleted? http://www.alamy.com/search.html?CreativeOn=1&adv=1&ag=0&all=1&creative=&et=0x000000000000000000000&vp=0&loc=0&qt=logo&qn=&lic=6&lic=1&imgt=0&archive=1&dtfr=&dtto=&hc=&selectdate=&size=0xFF&aqt=&epqt=&oqt=&nqt=>ype=0 Edo, Brooklyn renegade. The rules are- keep your head down, change licence type if Alamy ask you to, and leave the rest exactly as they are. And whatever you do, don't put 'National Trust' in the keywords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Interesting thread. An old image of mine with a Barclays bank building in it leased just last week. It's not a logo shot per se, but the name of the bank is visible. There is a street market going on in front of the bank, which might have interested the photo buyer more than the building -- i.e. there is plenty of "context." P.S. It was for "Commercial presentation" use, whatever that is. It was the pitch in which the consultant proved they had to hire him to gain control of that interwebs thingy. Because their noble bank and their honourable bank people were made to look like they were just market vendors or rag-and-bone men even. It was an easy win. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Interesting thread. An old image of mine with a Barclays bank building in it leased just last week. It's not a logo shot per se, but the name of the bank is visible. There is a street market going on in front of the bank, which might have interested the photo buyer more than the building -- i.e. there is plenty of "context." P.S. It was for "Commercial presentation" use, whatever that is. It was the pitch in which the consultant proved they had to hire him to gain control of that interwebs thingy. Because their noble bank and their honourable bank people were made to look like they were just market vendors or rag-and-bone men even. It was an easy win. wim I see. Guess I'll now have to close all my Barclays offshore bank accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Interesting thread. An old image of mine with a Barclays bank building in it leased just last week. It's not a logo shot per se, but the name of the bank is visible. There is a street market going on in front of the bank, which might have interested the photo buyer more than the building -- i.e. there is plenty of "context." P.S. It was for "Commercial presentation" use, whatever that is. It was the pitch in which the consultant proved they had to hire him to gain control of that interwebs thingy. Because their noble bank and their honourable bank people were made to look like they were just market vendors or rag-and-bone men even. It was an easy win. wim I see. Guess I'll now have to close all my Barclays offshore bank accounts. You are offshore John. Allan Oh! I see what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I had two Barclays removed too. In the past it's happened with the London Underground roundel, though I continue to get sales of that from images they haven't deleted yet. You'd think they'd just do an image search for 'logo' and delete the 214,000 results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Walker Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I thought the idea of having a logo was to promote the business. Any time the logo is used in editorial it's free advertising - what's their problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I thought the idea of having a logo was to promote the business. Any time the logo is used in editorial it's free advertising - what's their problem? Exactly. I've never understood the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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