Perspective Correction

[wiskerke]

Control or no control

 

 

And yes there is distortion, which sometimes is the point.

Degradation never though.

 

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wim

[John Mitchell]

I guess it all depends on the effect you want and the end-use of the image. A magazine leased this one (Sony NEX, 16mm lens) last week, distortion and all. A textbook probably would have wanted a "straighter" look.

[Niels Quist]

One could consider to upload two versions of the image in some cases.

[John Mitchell]

One could consider to upload two versions of the image in some cases.

 

Good idea.

[Guest]

I guess it all depends on the effect you want and the end-use of the image. A magazine leased this one (Sony NEX, 16mm lens) last week, distortion and all. A textbook probably would have wanted a "straighter" look.

 

And which one would have paid you more money???

[Robert Brook]

I guess it all depends on the effect you want and the end-use of the image. A magazine leased this one (Sony NEX, 16mm lens) last week, distortion and all. A textbook probably would have wanted a "straighter" look.A

Since there don't appear to be any distortion free pictures of the Emily Carr university of Art & Design, John, it's possible the mag wasn't buying because they just loved the converging lines.

 

If there is any building crying out to be shot with straight lines (and probably at night) it must be one such as this with all its Brutalist complexity. Which makes me wonder what they are teaching in there. Not architectural photography, obviously.

[Robert Brook]

Wrong. Using a different search method found this (on Flickr !!)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/63271580@N00/18749689884

And people here wonder why we get rubbish fees?

[spacecadet]

 

I guess it all depends on the effect you want and the end-use of the image. A magazine leased this one (Sony NEX, 16mm lens) last week, distortion and all. A textbook probably would have wanted a "straighter" look.A

Since there don't appear to be any distortion free pictures of the Emily Carr university of Art & Design, John, it's possible the mag wasn't buying because they just loved the converging lines.

 

If there is any building crying out to be shot with straight lines (and probably at night) it must be one such as this with all its Brutalist complexity. Which makes me wonder what they are teaching in there. Not architectural photography, obviously.

 

Ah.

I think this is allowable

and so do the Guardian who keep licensing it.

BTW I didn't notice the dog was having a wee until I saw it in a DPS whilst pursuing an infringement.

[Robert Brook]

 

 

I guess it all depends on the effect you want and the end-use of the image. A magazine leased this one (Sony NEX, 16mm lens) last week, distortion and all. A textbook probably would have wanted a "straighter" look.A

Since there don't appear to be any distortion free pictures of the Emily Carr university of Art & Design, John, it's possible the mag wasn't buying because they just loved the converging lines.

 

If there is any building crying out to be shot with straight lines (and probably at night) it must be one such as this with all its Brutalist complexity. Which makes me wonder what they are teaching in there. Not architectural photography, obviously.

 

Ah.

I think this is allowable

and so do the Guardian who keep licensing it.

BTW I didn't notice the dog was having a wee until I saw it in a DPS whilst pursuing an infringement.

 

 

Not surprised.  The mellow sunlight, shadows and clouds suits that urban concrete style well.   

[spacecadet]

I should really start my own thread but here's another, Stockwell bus garage

UEA, Denis Lasdun, him wot did Centrepoint

[John Mitchell]

 

I guess it all depends on the effect you want and the end-use of the image. A magazine leased this one (Sony NEX, 16mm lens) last week, distortion and all. A textbook probably would have wanted a "straighter" look.

 

And which one would have paid you more money???

 

 

Who knows these days? I've had IQ book sales for half of what the magazine paid. It was a distributor sale, though.

 

Glad someone liked it for whatever reason.

[John Mitchell]

 

I guess it all depends on the effect you want and the end-use of the image. A magazine leased this one (Sony NEX, 16mm lens) last week, distortion and all. A textbook probably would have wanted a "straighter" look.A

Since there don't appear to be any distortion free pictures of the Emily Carr university of Art & Design, John, it's possible the mag wasn't buying because they just loved the converging lines.

 

If there is any building crying out to be shot with straight lines (and probably at night) it must be one such as this with all its Brutalist complexity. Which makes me wonder what they are teaching in there. Not architectural photography, obviously.

 

 

Brutal, baby, brutal.

 

My guess is that this sale had as much to do with the students in front of the building as with the building itself. But again, who knows. BTW, I don't consider this an architectural shot (more of a street shot), nor do I like the building. It's a bit of a cat's breakfast IMO. Nonetheless, if I had set out to attempt to make a serious architectural image of this structure, I would have used a wider lens and would have later corrected the verticals as much as possible. Perhaps I'll go back and give it a try one of these nights.

[Robert Brook]

 

Brutal, baby, brutal.

 

My guess is that this sale had as much to do with the students in front of the building as with the building itself. But again, who knows. BTW, I don't consider this an architectural shot (more of a street shot), nor do I like the building. It's a bit of a cat's breakfast IMO. Nonetheless, if I had set out to attempt to make a serious architectural image of this structure, I would have used a wider lens and would have later corrected the verticals as much as possible. Perhaps I'll go back and give it a try one of these nights.

 

 

You are probably right, and the buyer wanted a shot with students in view.  I was looking at your set, however, which looks to me to be about the architecture, rather than the street. 

[John Mitchell]

 

 

Brutal, baby, brutal.

 

My guess is that this sale had as much to do with the students in front of the building as with the building itself. But again, who knows. BTW, I don't consider this an architectural shot (more of a street shot), nor do I like the building. It's a bit of a cat's breakfast IMO. Nonetheless, if I had set out to attempt to make a serious architectural image of this structure, I would have used a wider lens and would have later corrected the verticals as much as possible. Perhaps I'll go back and give it a try one of these nights.

 

 

You are probably right, and the buyer wanted a shot with students in view.  I was looking at your set, however, which looks to me to be about the architecture, rather than the street. 

 

 

Right, most of the others are about the architecture. It's a difficult building to photograph as the pedestrian-only street in front of it is narrow, and the front is in perpetual shadow. I actually did do some straightening of the verticals on a couple of those shots (doesn't look like it, I know). You've inspired me to go back and try gain. Nighttime was a good suggestion. The university is currently building a new campus. Hopefully, they have hired another architect. I guess my point was that distortion isn't always a big issue with some types of images, depending on their end-use and audience. As Edo pointed out, people are used to converging verticals in photos and probably expect to see them.

 

After all, where would Stockimo be without distortion?

[Robert Brook]

I should really start my own thread but here's another, Stockwell bus garage

UEA, Denis Lasdun, him wot did Centrepoint

 

A welcome relief from all the sickly whimsey that Alamy like to spatter their pages with.  Lets have more!

 

Anyone familiar with the Bechers?  Here are some lessons in perspective control:

 

http://www.artnet.com/artists/bernd-and-hilla-becher/

[Robert Brook]

 

 

 

Brutal, baby, brutal.

 

My guess is that this sale had as much to do with the students in front of the building as with the building itself. But again, who knows. BTW, I don't consider this an architectural shot (more of a street shot), nor do I like the building. It's a bit of a cat's breakfast IMO. Nonetheless, if I had set out to attempt to make a serious architectural image of this structure, I would have used a wider lens and would have later corrected the verticals as much as possible. Perhaps I'll go back and give it a try one of these nights.

 

 

You are probably right, and the buyer wanted a shot with students in view.  I was looking at your set, however, which looks to me to be about the architecture, rather than the street. 

 

 

Right, most of the others are about the architecture. It's a difficult building to photograph as the pedestrian-only street in front of it is narrow, and the front is in perpetual shadow. I actually did do some straightening of the verticals on a couple of those shots (doesn't look like it, I know). You've inspired me to go back and try gain. Nighttime was a good suggestion. The university is currently building a new campus. Hopefully, they have hired another architect. I guess my point was that distortion isn't always a big issue with some types of images, depending on their end-use and audience. As Edo pointed out, people are used to converging verticals in photos and probably expect to see them.

 

After all, where would Stockimo be without distortion?

 

 

Good luck with that John.  Night-time is another world. 

[spacecadet]

 

 

A welcome relief from all the sickly whimsey that Alamy like to spatter their pages with.  Lets have more!

 

My pleasure.

 

OK, I'm cheating with some of those, , but what's the harm in a bit of Neue Sachlichkeit between friends?

[digi2ap]

Brutalist beauty - sadly now due for demolition:

 

[Geoffrey Taunton]

There are clearly arguments for and against correction, whether it's done by using a specialist lens or by software such as shiftN.  If it's a good image of an interesting subject, why not submit two versions, thereby appealing to more potential buyers?.

I have an ancient second-hand Pentax perspective control lens which I find very cumbersome.  The first time I put an image through shift N and saw the correction version I burst out in appreciative laughter at the power and simplicity of it.

[Ed Rooney]

A visual comment on the subject at hand: perspective control is no different from any other aspect of photography; it demands a judgement call.

 

[Bill Kuta]

 

A visual comment on the subject at hand:

 

Perspective control is no different from any other aspect of photography; it demands a judgement call.

 

 

I guess it depends on your, um, perspective.

[John Mitchell]

 

A visual comment on the subject at hand: perspective control is no different from any other aspect of photography; it demands a judgement call.

 

 

 

Very dramatic (and very NYC) indeed. Did you use your Sony 10-18 for this one?

[Ed Rooney]

I sure did, John -- and at its widest point, the 15mm view. This was handheld. Sharp, huh? I just keep it on the NEX-6 these days, use all the zoom settings, with the 18mm giving a 24mm view . . . almost normal.  

 

This vari-wide look has never been a favorite of mine, but it gives me a powerful new tool here in this tightly-packed, skyscraper city. 

 

Edo

[John Mitchell]

I sure did, John -- and at its widest point, the 15mm view. This was handheld. Sharp, huh? I just keep it on the NEX-6 these days, use all the zoom settings, with the 18mm giving a 24mm view . . . almost normal.

 

This vari-wide look has never been a favorite of mine, but it gives me a powerful new tool here in this tightly-packed, skyscraper city. 

 

Edo

 

Looks as if that lens was a good investment, especially for the vertical landscapes that you explore.

 

Perhaps Santa will bring me one this year, then perhaps not.

[Ed Rooney]

Explore the possibility that Adorama or B&H have a refurbished sample, maybe phone them. You could get a couple of hundred $ off that way, and the lens is hand-tuned with a warranty. I know you're an NEX-6 shooter.