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OK, my keywording isn't the best and it may be argued neither are my images but I've noticed over the last few weeks and months a drop off in views. The count for Thursday was 37 from 3525 images. Is it a holiday in the south of Britain this week?

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In my experience it is perfectly normal for views to halve during August in the UK (and in the northern hemisphere in general?) as photo buyers and THEIR clients take annual leave, putting projects on hold or at least on the back burner until September. Newspapers and suchlike scratch around for items to publish so there is still some activity there, but  slow views and sales are likely to be the norm.

 

Having said that, over the last 30 days I'm running at 53 views per day on 2300 images. Your portfolio is similar in style to mine so it would not be unreasonable to expect similar stats. I notice you have fewer keywords per image than I typically use, which may help explain the fewer views BUT if you are getting better CTR (mine is 0.30 for July) and are getting better sales (I average one per month) then I think you have less cause to be worried. The one thing I have changed in my workflow in recent months is to add slightly more contrast and saturation to my images in an attempt to make them stand out more as thumbnails and thereby garner more zooms. I'm not sure it's having a major effect, but I think it is the right thing to do. 

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My views are down as well, but zooms are non-existent all of a sudden. Haven't had a zoom since the beginning of July.

 

Same as you Josepgh, I have begun improving photos as my skills are better, so it seems the intelligent thing to do.

 

Jill

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I know many of you think of BHZ as a waste of time, but have any of you used it?

We did have a couple of re-ranks and algorithm changes in the last 10 weeks or so.

Algorithm = the way keywords; sales history and some other data like ranking are weighed.

 

Maybe do something like this:

 

Jan 2014                    Jan 2015
Total Views:     8,429      Total Views:     7,185
Total Zooms:     29         Total Zooms:     32

Feb 2014                    Feb 2015
Total Views:     8,820      Total Views:     7,787
Total Zooms:     39         Total Zooms:     51

Mar 2014                    Mar 2015
Total Views:     8,018      Total Views:     9,533
Total Zooms:     51         Total Zooms:     61

Apr 2014                    Apr 2015
Total Views:     8,038      Total Views:     8,737
Total Zooms:     42         Total Zooms:     59

May 2014                    May 2015
Total Views:     8,242      Total Views:     6,822
Total Zooms:     22         Total Zooms:     60

Jun 2014                    Jun 2015
Total Views:     9,025      Total Views:     8,604
Total Zooms:     45         Total Zooms:     60

Jul 2014                    Jul 2015
Total Views:     9,239      Total Views:     9,610
Total Zooms:     64         Total Zooms:     73

 

These are totals. Numbers for individual pseudos would probably be more meaningful.

 

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I do the BHZ game and it seems when my bhz rating went from page 28 to page 5, that is when the vies and zooms went way down. Didn't seem to make sense. I would do searches on my image subjects and I would be on page 1-3 on almost all of them, but somehow the views weren't there. Now, when I would check A0oA to see what searches were being applied, I have to say most of them did not apply to my images, so that probably accounts for a lot of it.

 

Are you getting that many views a month on just over 2,000 images? Fantastic!

 

Jill

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I do the BHZ game and it seems when my bhz rating went from page 28 to page 5, that is when the vies and zooms went way down. Didn't seem to make sense. I would do searches on my image subjects and I would be on page 1-3 on almost all of them, but somehow the views weren't there. Now, when I would check A0oA to see what searches were being applied, I have to say most of them did not apply to my images, so that probably accounts for a lot of it.

 

Are you getting that many views a month on just over 2,000 images? Fantastic!

 

Jill

 

More like on just 1600 images. The rest is more or less sitting there.

So it's about 3500 this month for the pseudo of 360 and 4800 for the pseudo of 1250.

My best CTR is of course for the pseudo deleted ;-)

There must be a healthy ratio sales vs views though. Otherwise the pseudo will sink very soon. At least that was the case until very recently. Some of the last re-rankings (probably no real re-rank, but a shift in BHZ nonetheless) suggested an ease of that: some contributors that had slipped a lot over the running year have noted a recovery like you.

 

Your overall views going down when your bhz goes up is very counter-intuitive indeed.

 

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I do the BHZ game and it seems when my bhz rating went from page 28 to page 5, that is when the vies and zooms went way down. Didn't seem to make sense. I would do searches on my image subjects and I would be on page 1-3 on almost all of them, but somehow the views weren't there. Now, when I would check A0oA to see what searches were being applied, I have to say most of them did not apply to my images, so that probably accounts for a lot of it.

 

Are you getting that many views a month on just over 2,000 images? Fantastic!

 

Jill

 

More like on just 1600 images. The rest is more or less sitting there.

So it's about 3500 this month for the pseudo of 360 and 4800 for the pseudo of 1250.

My best CTR is of course for the pseudo deleted ;-)

There must be a healthy ratio sales vs views though. Otherwise the pseudo will sink very soon. At least that was the case until very recently. Some of the last re-rankings (probably no real re-rank, but a shift in BHZ nonetheless) suggested an ease of that: some contributors that had slipped a lot over the running year have noted a recovery like you.

 

Your overall views going down when your bhz goes up is very counter-intuitive indeed.

 

wim

 

 

wim:

 

As I mentioned, I did go over AoA and I didn't seem to have what people were looking for over the past month. I did notice that I didn't include Canada in many of my images when I came across a search for "snow ontario canada".  So I did a complete search over the past year for %ontario% and discovered how often Canada was added to the end.  So I have been plowing through the images adding Canada where I didn't have it before. Images you wouldn't think that the country would matter, but obviously does. I guess if someone is writing an article about specific subjects in Canada so only wants to be sure to get images that are taken there. Dumb me.

 

And since there aren't tons of Canadian searches, gotta grab every one going.  Always an ever learning process.

 

Jill

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My doc said I had low view count, but he gave me something for it.

 

Yeah, there's Viagra and Alprazolam. One of them has something to do with memory, but I forget which one. 

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My doc said I had low view count, but he gave me something for it.

 

Yeah, there's Viagra and Alprazolam. One of them has something to do with memory, but I forget which one. 

 

 

:lol:

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Wim, to be fair, you are I would think, an exception in that you seem to know which images to cull. The best in any business always make things look simple and you certainly do that. 

 

Joseph,

For Aug I've had 317 views and I've had two zooms

My total CTR is sitting at 0.63

Averaging 3 sales per month since Jan 1st

 

Michael, when I read 750 images I could have chucked it all in there and then. ;)

 

I don't think over saturated images will attract experienced buyers, but I shoot RAW anyway so saturation gets my best judgement anyway. I did drop a few pages in the BHZ game after the last rerank and that coincidentally followed my opening a second pseudo for prospective deletions. Needless to say one of those images sold and I haven't had the guts to delete any.  :rolleyes: I wouldn't have thought that would have had any adverse effect, could it?

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Interesting exercise - thanks Dougie. My average figures across all pseudos are as follows:-

 

Month   CTR   Views   Total views

 

2014

 

Aug       0.52   36    9,556

Sep       0.26   31  12,061

Oct       0.34   38   11,069

Nov      0.29   29     9,938

Dec      0.17   17     7.960

 

2015

 

Jan       0.21  17     8,464

Feb      0.40   39    9,690

Mar      0.46   44    9,620

Apr      0.26   22    8,619

May     0.40   37    9,144

Jun      0.49   42    8,634

Jul       0.34   29    8,570

 

Difficult to draw a conclusion on my figures. CTR strengthening while total views are weakening. I guess that's better than the opposite.

 

 

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For the past 31 days I averaged 43 views/day for 750+ images, if I just look at August it drops to 25/day.  Zooms have been up since June and still strong in August ("strong" meaning above average for me).

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My doc said I had low view count, but he gave me something for it.

 

Yeah, there's Viagra and Alprazolam. One of them has something to do with memory, but I forget which one. 

 

 

:lol:

 

Lol  :)

 

But seriously - no real variation here in views through the summer months c/w the others;  - perhaps it depends what sort of images the portfolio consists of?

Kumar

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I've been keeping track of the number of pages of searches in All of Alamy for several years now, and I don't see any evidence of a drop-off in activity during the summer months. Here are averages for 2009 through 2014:

 

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These stats are for All of Alamy, so if your own collection is directed toward some subset of the image-buying crowd, and that subset of buyers happens to take most of August off, you'll see a drop. Chances are, though, that many of the drops reported in this thread are just normal fluctuations.

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Dougie,

 

I know you haven't specifically request a portfolio critique so apologies for taking the thread in another direction.

 

I've just had a look at your portfolio and you have plenty of really good photos. Maybe have a look at the keywording would reap benefits?

For example: F02HMM I'd add "Police Station"."Police Scotland","Scottish Police Station","Clyde Gateway","Police Station Exterior",Dalmarnock,"Dalmarnock Police HQ","Police Scotland HQ","UK Police","Police Headquarters","Police HQ"

 

As you will probably have some keywords that apply to multiple photos then a mug of tea and some copy and pasting could be a quick win.

 

Michael

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So basically what you're saying Michael is that even if I already have those keywords I should still group them together as sets in inverted commas? I wasn't sure that the Alamy searches recognised them? 

 

Edit. I see now that I also missed a number of those keywords. I hate keywording and it shows I suppose. :(

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As I understand it from an email exchange I had last week with Member Services....

 

The " " makes the search engine treat the contents as one keyword. So that if a customer searched for Police Scotland then "Police Scotland" would rank higher than Police Scotland because it's the exact match. Where as Police Scotland are effectively two separate keywords and can be affected by the order in which they appear and where they appear compared to other keywords.

 

Happy to stand corrected if anyone else has any views!

 

Michael

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As I understand it from an email exchange I had last week with Member Services....

 

The " " makes the search engine treat the contents as one keyword. So that if a customer searched for Police Scotland then "Police Scotland" would rank higher than Police Scotland because it's the exact match. Where as Police Scotland are effectively two separate keywords and can be affected by the order in which they appear and where they appear compared to other keywords.

 

Happy to stand corrected if anyone else has any views!

 

Michael

Thank you Michael. I'll try to take that on board :)

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As I understand it from an email exchange I had last week with Member Services....

 

The " " makes the search engine treat the contents as one keyword. So that if a customer searched for Police Scotland then "Police Scotland" would rank higher than Police Scotland because it's the exact match. Where as Police Scotland are effectively two separate keywords and can be affected by the order in which they appear and where they appear compared to other keywords.

 

Happy to stand corrected if anyone else has any views!

 

Michael

Thank you Michael. I'll try to take that on board :)

 

No worries! I had some really helpful key-wording advice from the forum last month.

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