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The harder I pedal, the farther behind I get.

Betty

I found I just couldn't pedal fast enough. When there were 10 million images I thought I'd some chance, but with the collection growing by 10 million a year I figured I'd need to be adding 20 images a week just to stand still. I passed the point of diminishing returns about 5 years ago.

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2008     $36 (all gross)


2009      $190


2010      $59


2011      $41


2012      $35


2013      $41


2014      $50


2015      $40


 


John


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2004 - $264 based on 1 sale

2005 - $198 based on 10 sales

2006 - $184 based on 31 sales

2007 - $154 based on 47 sales

2008 - $122 based on 100 sales

2009 - $109 based on 105 sales

2010 -  $77 based on 159 sales

2011 -  $69 based on 255 sales

2012 -  $51 based on 429 sales

2013 -  $59 based on 447 sales

2014 -  $38 based on 408 sales

2015 -  $45 based on 74 sales

all gross figures, non NU but I am in newspaper scheme.

Quite a telling and depressing trend.

 

Pearl

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Compare you folks, I should feel lucky. Number of sales are not great. But my average is above average -_- ...

 

2008: $200

2009: $166

2010: $176

2011: $115

2012: $91

2013: $104

2014: $96

2015: $85

 

Over all average over the last 8 years: $103 (All gross).

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Number of sales the last couple of years have been very low but my license prices (according to the dashboard) are actually more stable than what I believed them to be:

 

06: 147
07: 131
08: 102
09: 82
10: 55
11: 122
12: 74
13: 59
14: 44
15: 47
 

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I'm always confused by these discussions because I'm not sure why anyone discusses the "gross" sales price.  Who cares what Alamy gets or what the total was, I'm interested in knowing what I'm going to see or what all of you see.  Furthermore, my opinion is that the gross sales price is the amount in my paycheck since I still intend to report it as income and will pay taxes on it. 

 

That said, I'm mostly depressed by looking at everyone's figures over the years.  I'm fairly new here and I'm just starting to recognize some sales but it's discouraging to know that just a handful of years ago, the totals may have been several times what they are today......

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Gross disregards different rates of commission so you could say it's more directly comparable between outlets. It's the 'going rate' actually paid by customers as well.

Surely you mean you'll be reporting the net.

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Good point regarding the different rates of commission but to my mind, I'd just as soon get a $200 sale with a 50% commission rate as a $300 sale with a 33% commission since they both mean $100 to me.  And yes, I'll only report the amount that I get because while I love paying taxes, I guess enough is enough.  :D

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Good point regarding the different rates of commission but to my mind, I'd just as soon get a $200 sale with a 50% commission rate as a $300 sale with a 33% commission since they both mean $100 to me.  And yes, I'll only report the amount that I get because while I love paying taxes, I guess enough is enough.  :D

 

I don't know where you are based, but here in Canada I have to report both gross and net self-employed income on my income tax forms. However, the government only taxes the net. Usually, I have so many expenses, etc. that I can write off from my various freelance pursuits that I seldom pay much (if any) income tax. There are advantages to occupying the poor end of the income spectrum. B)

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year average gross # of sales

per sale in that year

2006 $249 3

2007 $163 34

2008 $146 109

2009 $158 116

2010 $109 123

2011 $98 196

2012 $92 185

2013 $82 176

2014 $73 176

2015 $52 54 (so far this year)

 

I am in the newspaper scheme but not NU

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The figures are probably skewed by the Newspaper scheme, where we are down to $6 a time, but there is compensation due to the possibility of multiple use. Would be useful to state whether or not you are in the scheme. 

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I missed this interesting exercise.  Here are my results for gross, no NU, majority RF:

 

2006  $198     9 sales

2007  $235   37 sales

2008  $176   59 sales

2009  $172   58 sales

2010  $137   97 sales

2011    $79 152 sales

2012    $61 232 sales

2013    $77 125 sales

2014    $72 122 sales

2015    $71   28 sales

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Here are my figures (gross - from MyAlamy dashboard, no NU sales, in newspaper scheme, majority RM). 

 

2008  $278

2009  $71

2010  $104

2011  $260 

2012  $80 

2013  $85 

2014  $68 

2015  $55 

 

2011 was an anomaly due to one very large sale. 

2015 is so far looking a bit unusual due to a smaller than normal proportion of textbook sales and a higher proportion of newspaper scheme sales. 

 

Edited for format. 

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