Vincent MacNamara 1 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The harder I pedal, the farther behind I get. Betty I found I just couldn't pedal fast enough. When there were 10 million images I thought I'd some chance, but with the collection growing by 10 million a year I figured I'd need to be adding 20 images a week just to stand still. I passed the point of diminishing returns about 5 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Stokie 790 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 2008 $36 (all gross) 2009 $190 2010 $59 2011 $41 2012 $35 2013 $41 2014 $50 2015 $40 John 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Pearl 1,001 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) 2004 - $264 based on 1 sale 2005 - $198 based on 10 sales 2006 - $184 based on 31 sales 2007 - $154 based on 47 sales 2008 - $122 based on 100 sales 2009 - $109 based on 105 sales 2010 - $77 based on 159 sales 2011 - $69 based on 255 sales 2012 - $51 based on 429 sales 2013 - $59 based on 447 sales 2014 - $38 based on 408 sales 2015 - $45 based on 74 sales all gross figures, non NU but I am in newspaper scheme. Quite a telling and depressing trend. Pearl Edited March 30, 2015 by Pearl 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Ramsay 593 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 2008 - $110 2009 - $80 2010 - $89 2011 - $67 2012 - $56 2013 - $58 2014 - $45 enough said, I fancy Alex 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbro 303 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Compare you folks, I should feel lucky. Number of sales are not great. But my average is above average ... 2008: $200 2009: $166 2010: $176 2011: $115 2012: $91 2013: $104 2014: $96 2015: $85 Over all average over the last 8 years: $103 (All gross). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LarsMadsen 131 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Number of sales the last couple of years have been very low but my license prices (according to the dashboard) are actually more stable than what I believed them to be: 06: 14707: 13108: 10209: 8210: 5511: 12212: 7413: 5914: 4415: 47 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Ragosta 5 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I'm always confused by these discussions because I'm not sure why anyone discusses the "gross" sales price. Who cares what Alamy gets or what the total was, I'm interested in knowing what I'm going to see or what all of you see. Furthermore, my opinion is that the gross sales price is the amount in my paycheck since I still intend to report it as income and will pay taxes on it. That said, I'm mostly depressed by looking at everyone's figures over the years. I'm fairly new here and I'm just starting to recognize some sales but it's discouraging to know that just a handful of years ago, the totals may have been several times what they are today...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
spacecadet 3,924 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Gross disregards different rates of commission so you could say it's more directly comparable between outlets. It's the 'going rate' actually paid by customers as well. Surely you mean you'll be reporting the net. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Ragosta 5 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Good point regarding the different rates of commission but to my mind, I'd just as soon get a $200 sale with a 50% commission rate as a $300 sale with a 33% commission since they both mean $100 to me. And yes, I'll only report the amount that I get because while I love paying taxes, I guess enough is enough. Link to post Share on other sites
John Mitchell 4,812 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Good point regarding the different rates of commission but to my mind, I'd just as soon get a $200 sale with a 50% commission rate as a $300 sale with a 33% commission since they both mean $100 to me. And yes, I'll only report the amount that I get because while I love paying taxes, I guess enough is enough. I don't know where you are based, but here in Canada I have to report both gross and net self-employed income on my income tax forms. However, the government only taxes the net. Usually, I have so many expenses, etc. that I can write off from my various freelance pursuits that I seldom pay much (if any) income tax. There are advantages to occupying the poor end of the income spectrum. Edited April 8, 2015 by John Mitchell 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Ventura 5,868 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) year average gross # of sales per sale in that year 2006 $249 3 2007 $163 34 2008 $146 109 2009 $158 116 2010 $109 123 2011 $98 196 2012 $92 185 2013 $82 176 2014 $73 176 2015 $52 54 (so far this year) I am in the newspaper scheme but not NU Edited April 9, 2015 by Michael Ventura 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 14,670 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The figures are probably skewed by the Newspaper scheme, where we are down to $6 a time, but there is compensation due to the possibility of multiple use. Would be useful to state whether or not you are in the scheme. Link to post Share on other sites
Arletta 367 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Is this idea correct? Prices are lowering, that makes more sales, but that still gives less income? (Not to mention exapanding portfolio). Link to post Share on other sites
losdemas 2,899 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 ^^Seems about right... Link to post Share on other sites
Reimar 429 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) I missed this interesting exercise. Here are my results for gross, no NU, majority RF: 2006 $198 9 sales 2007 $235 37 sales 2008 $176 59 sales 2009 $172 58 sales 2010 $137 97 sales 2011 $79 152 sales 2012 $61 232 sales 2013 $77 125 sales 2014 $72 122 sales 2015 $71 28 sales Edited April 10, 2015 by Reimar 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DHill 82 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Here are my figures (gross - from MyAlamy dashboard, no NU sales, in newspaper scheme, majority RM). 2008 $278 2009 $71 2010 $104 2011 $260 2012 $80 2013 $85 2014 $68 2015 $55 2011 was an anomaly due to one very large sale. 2015 is so far looking a bit unusual due to a smaller than normal proportion of textbook sales and a higher proportion of newspaper scheme sales. Edited for format. Edited April 10, 2015 by DHill 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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