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Money. Revenue. Income. Funds. Moolah.  Whatever you want to call it, we're yet to meet a stock photographer who isn't partial to making more of it...

 

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30% is higher than most agency standard rates?

 

Alamy, which agencies are you talking about? Because if you go to micro, yes under non-exclusive it isn't 30% but under exclusive it's still higher than 30% With the Big G it's 30% standard or 40% if you sell in your home territory and they blow you away sales wise and clients wise. Other agents that I'm with and distribute through you are higher than 30%.

 

I think you need to reconsider your ill informed percentages in that article.

 

Sorry but what you have written on the percentages is mis-leading.

 

The only thing I would say and agree with is that it is a good idea to sign up to distribution sales because, as you say, you are opening up sales potential.

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Getty give you 20% for RF.

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Getty give you 20% for RF.

 

Fair enough. But the overall statement that was said is wrong.

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30% is higher than most agency standard rates?

 

Alamy, which agencies are you talking about? Because if you go to micro, yes under non-exclusive it isn't 30% but under exclusive it's still higher than 30% With the Big G it's 30% standard or 40% if you sell in your home territory and they blow you away sales wise and clients wise. Other agents that I'm with and distribute through you are higher than 30%.

 

I think you need to reconsider your ill informed percentages in that article.

 

Sorry but what you have written on the percentages is mis-leading.

 

The only thing I would say and agree with is that it is a good idea to sign up to distribution sales because, as you say, you are opening up sales potential.

 

We're non-exclusive so are comparing non-exclusive rates. Check out the non-exclusive (where non-exclusive is an option) starting rates for Shutterstock, iStock, Getty RF, Dreamstime, Corbis and Fotolia.

 

Alamy

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 With the Big G it's 30% standard or 40% if you sell in your home territory and they blow you away sales wise and clients wise. Other agents that I'm with and distribute through you are higher than 30%.

 

 

Jools,

 

The 30%/40% Getty split is long gone!

 

If you have images sub-distributed by another agency through Alamy, you only get a % of their %.

 

If you are making big money through direct sales from said agency then please share!

 

Alamy's % is still better than most.

 

Chris E

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We're non-exclusive so are comparing non-exclusive rates. Check out the non-exclusive (where non-exclusive is an option) starting rates for Shutterstock, iStock, Getty RF, Dreamstime, Corbis and Fotolia.

 

 

Why compare with micros? As I know, (non exclusive) agencies like: Inmagine, Profimedia, Pond5, etc... offer 50%. Lately more and more sites offer 70-80% to author. So, if there is point to follow the worst?

Btw, many people (me too) left places like FT, iS, DT because of low %. Alamy's 50% is still more encouraging, and 30% (of distrib. sale) is absolutely minimum to make any sense of supporting.

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We're non-exclusive so are comparing non-exclusive rates. Check out the non-exclusive (where non-exclusive is an option) starting rates for Shutterstock, iStock, Getty RF, Dreamstime, Corbis and Fotolia.

 

 

Why compare with micros? As I know, (non exclusive) agencies like: Inmagine, Profimedia, Pond5, etc... offer 50%. Lately more and more sites offer 70-80% to author. So, if there is point to follow the worst?

Btw, many people (me too) left places like FT, iS, DT because of low %. Alamy's 50% is still more encouraging, and 30% (of distrib. sale) is absolutely minimum to make any sense of supporting.

 

 

You can also add Photofusion and Writer Pictures to that 50% list as well. It also seems that Demotix (news agency part of Corbis) pays the full 50% on reseller sales  and splits their 50% with the reseller.

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We made the comparison to leading general subject photography agencies / libraries, not small or niche, eg Writer Pictures.

 

Let's not detract from the main spirit of the statement which is that 30% via a third party distribution commission is very competitive, and many other libraries offer that for direct sales.

 

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We're non-exclusive so are comparing non-exclusive rates. Check out the non-exclusive (where non-exclusive is an option) starting rates for Shutterstock, iStock, Getty RF, Dreamstime, Corbis and Fotolia.

 

 

Why compare with micros? As I know, (non exclusive) agencies like: Inmagine, Profimedia, Pond5, etc... offer 50%. Lately more and more sites offer 70-80% to author. So, if there is point to follow the worst?

Btw, many people (me too) left places like FT, iS, DT because of low %. Alamy's 50% is still more encouraging, and 30% (of distrib. sale) is absolutely minimum to make any sense of supporting.

 

 

A few questions immediately spring to mind:

 

Do the un-named sites that offer 80% return to contributors sell?

 

Who are they ( to be fair to Alamy, this one requires a PM reply :)  ) ?

 

And did you really leave agencies because of low % or was it because of low nett returns? I only ask this last question because if I earned more with an agency that only pays 20% versus an agency that paid 80%, there is no way I'd leave the lower-percentage payer. Percentages versus nett return (everything else being equal), give me nett return any day.

 

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Do the un-named sites that offer 80% return to contributors sell?

Yes. More info you'll find on MSG forum. It's not about my sales only.

 

And did you really leave agencies because of low % or was it because of low nett returns?

Both, but that was the first rule point. I feel really bad when get some poor % when "boss" gets the huge rest. Read more about DP, 123rf, FT, Veer and other's partner programs to feel the whole case and problem.

Btw. it really is not encouraging to work more when you ask agency why your sales (and %) dropped and you get reply: "just work harded and upload more and maybe $ will come!"

When I earn 50-200$ with one sale on Alamy I know my work is worth the effort. I feel this 50% is fair enough and I'm happy to work more. When I see 0,216... $ (per DL) on micro, 20-30% I feel ruined, collapsed and crashed with ground. And! When I find that agency sells my files for (example) 90$ ans I earn 0,30$ from that... Well, what else I can say? (to see details visit forum MSG and search for partner program keyword). In comparison with that I must say I love Alamy! Here I feel fair treated and I'm proud to sell my work here. However, would be nice to change the 40/30/30% of distribution ;) As said above, there are other who are able to share 50% and still keep it worth working.

 

I only ask this last question because if I earned more with an agency that only pays 20% versus an agency that paid 80%

I've found it's not worth to bother with 20% agencies because they don't earn more than 50% agencies. Not this days. I never contrib. to Getty (not interested in 20% at all) so can't compare their 20% and income.

 

Alamy, sorry for this OT. I hope some informations will clear things up a little bit.

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 With the Big G it's 30% standard or 40% if you sell in your home territory and they blow you away sales wise and clients wise. Other agents that I'm with and distribute through you are higher than 30%.

 

 

Jools,

 

The 30%/40% Getty split is long gone!

 

If you have images sub-distributed by another agency through Alamy, you only get a % of their %.

 

If you are making big money through direct sales from said agency then please share!

 

Alamy's % is still better than most.

 

Chris E

 

 

 

No it hasn't!!! I am a contributor and each month I am getting that. I'm sorry, I don't know where you are getting your info but it is wrong!

 

Alamy's split may be better BUT they cannot and will never be able to compete customer base wise with G.

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Do the un-named sites that offer 80% return to contributors sell?

Yes. More info you'll find on MSG forum. It's not about my sales only.

 

And did you really leave agencies because of low % or was it because of low nett returns?

Both, but that was the first rule point. I feel really bad when get some poor % when "boss" gets the huge rest. Read more about DP, 123rf, FT, Veer and other's partner programs to feel the whole case and problem.

Btw. it really is not encouraging to work more when you ask agency why your sales (and %) dropped and you get reply: "just work harded and upload more and maybe $ will come!"

When I earn 50-200$ with one sale on Alamy I know my work is worth the effort. I feel this 50% is fair enough and I'm happy to work more. When I see 0,216... $ (per DL) on micro, 20-30% I feel ruined, collapsed and crashed with ground. And! When I find that agency sells my files for (example) 90$ ans I earn 0,30$ from that... Well, what else I can say? (to see details visit forum MSG and search for partner program keyword). In comparison with that I must say I love Alamy! Here I feel fair treated and I'm proud to sell my work here. However, would be nice to change the 40/30/30% of distribution ;)

 

I only ask this last question because if I earned more with an agency that only pays 20% versus an agency that paid 80%

I've found it's not worth to bother with 20% agencies because they don't earn more than 50% agencies. Not this days. I never contrib. to Getty so can't compare their 20% and income.

 

Alamy, sorry for this OT. I hope some informations will clear things up a little bit.

 

Thanks for your responses, much appreciated.

 

I must admit I don't use micros, for a variety of reasons--when I was taking about higher/lower percentages I meant non-micro (and no, I do not consider Alamy micro). So all my references are to what most would see as non-micro agencies.

 

I like having images here, am in the distributor scheme, and also have different images elsewhere (self-imposed exclusives . . . it has paid off once or twice, but mainly it's just a personal preference against, as I see it, competing against myself). But when push comes to shove, my accountant is simply not interested in percentages, she looks at nett returns.

 

but ultimately it's a moot point . . . I'm keeping images here,  keeping different images elsewhere, avoiding micros, and always looking to maximise my nett returns . . . what more can a poor boy do ;) ?

 

dd

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If you look at other creative areas, publishers take 85-90% of the take. IF you are a star author, you may get a additional upfront fee to write.

 

Artists selling in galleries usually split with the gallery owner 50/50. Most markup in stores is 100%, so that is 50/50 between supplier and retailer. 

 

As a manufacturer that sells both to suppliers, retail and general public it is an interesting combination of percentages.  When selling to wholesales, my markup is 30% or say for a something that cost me $10 to make I sell for $13. Directly to retailers my markup is 60% and directly to the public my markup is 100%. In the end, I actually make more money from the 30% than the 60 or 100% because of the vast amount of sales the wholesale can make because of the thousands more clients he has.

 

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What struck me about Alamy's blog post was their statement that contributors who sign up for distribution in all territories can expect to increase their revenues by 20%. This seems reason enough to opt in whatever the profit split.

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Well distributor revenue is something under 8% of my net.

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Well distributor revenue is something under 8% of my net.

 

I used to get a lot of distributor sales, but they have declined during the past couple of years.

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There is far more parity between the majors than appears to be the case from a casual glance.  If Jule's figures are correct for RM work (at agency no 1), then, bearing in mind that there are offices around the world more than able to work with local markets, and huge resources go into marketing, the 30% doesn't sound at all bad.  At no 2, under the new Gateway contract, you get 37.5%.  Again quite a bit of the world is covered.  37.5% is better than 30%, but then again, 50% is better than 37.5%, and much better than the rate for non-exclusive images (under Gateway you have a choice between very exclusive, pretty exclusive and Uncle Tom Cobley and all exclusive).  But then, local agents are only able to produce a fifth of Alamy's revenue.

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"Well,according to this story,Getty hasn't been doing that great lately..." L

 

Most of the damages is in what they call 'midstock', although we might prefer to call it 'microstock', or iStock for short. On the other hand, they are actively promoting high end work through 'Prestige' and in other ways. My experience as an indirect contributor is that the same work sells about ten times better there and at Corbis, than the next best, which isn't Alamy, but another distributed collection of more old-fashioned, more documentary, perhaps less polished work, tends to sell a bit better at Alamy than at Getty.

 

No one of the majors is necessarily better than the others - they just have different strengths and weaknesses, and complement each other.

 

Many photographers are now moving to smaller agencies.  Perhaps the era of the giants is coming to an end. 

 

It usually does.

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Which story?

 

It's a quote . . . scroll back.

 

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..."No one of the majors is necessarily better than the others - they just have different strengths and weaknesses, and complement each other.

 

Many photographers are now moving to smaller agencies.  Perhaps the era of the giants is coming to an end. "...

 

Just recently cancelled my Getty House Contract. I do believe that we are moving into a new era. Getty is not too slowly losing it's grip of the market, smaller agencies and even individuals are getting better chances to do well.

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I am very happy about this option of distributing. It is good to know that you submit to only 1 agency and on the same time they go to many and many others. The loss of provision is compensates by winning time. For example I life in Poland and there are two well known Polish agencies and two others assigned as Alamy distributor. I would not want to upload to all 4 separately. I prefer Alamy does this for me and I can go on photographing.

 

Mirco

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