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Just a quickie. If you shoot a portrait lets say from behind so the face isn't showing and upload it then do you need a model release? Also when uploading if you don't need a model release then what do you enter where it says 'how many people are in this image' ?

 

 

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If there are people or parts of people in your image, then you enter how many people are in the image.

 

If you don't have a model release, then you must license it as rights managed.

 

To answer the next question (this comes up often on the forum), no you cannot license an image here on Alamy as rights managed and then at other places as royalty free (it's in your contract with Alamy that you are not permited to do this).

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If there are people or parts of people in your image, then you enter how many people are in the image.

 

If you don't have a model release, then you must license it as rights managed.

 

To answer the next question (this comes up often on the forum), no you cannot license an image here on Alamy as rights managed and then at other places as royalty free (it's in your contract with Alamy that you are not permited to do this).

I'm sure this has been asked before, so apologies in advance; what constitutes a person? A random foot, a distant unidentifiable leg, enough to maybe work out someone's identity, something different?

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If a person can recognize themselves in the image, then you need a release.

 

I remember years ago another agency described a situation where a person wanted to bring suit to the agency (and photographer) because they thought it was an image of themselves on a golf course.  Once some investigating took place, the person making the claim could not prove that they were in the same country at the same time despite looking like that person from a distance.

 

Here's a link to Alamy's Summary (along with URL if you want to do some more looking)

 

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Thanks all!

 

So these 2 images I need to change to 'rights managed' then?

 

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-Fast-Food-69191314.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid={DE84CF4F-CAE8-4813-B5F9-952DA0573440}&p=199612&n=0&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=12&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d12%26pn%3d1%26ps%3d120%26sortby%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26qt%3d%26qt_raw%3d%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative%3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d%26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoid%3d%26userid%3d{6628E669-064A-442D-AE41-FC884EE1D40B}%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3dgareth-williams%26qn%3d%26apalib%3d0%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d%26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26editorial%3d%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customgeoip%3d%26cap%3d1&IsFromSearch=1

 

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-Watching-the-War-Ships-74308739.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid={38B63DF0-0F4A-4611-BDA7-F0BDF5669927}&p=199612&n=0&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=12&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d12%26pn%3d1%26ps%3d120%26sortby%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26qt%3d%26qt_raw%3d%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative%3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d%26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoid%3d%26userid%3d{6628E669-064A-442D-AE41-FC884EE1D40B}%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3dgareth-williams%26qn%3d%26apalib%3d0%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d%26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26editorial%3d%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customgeoip%3d%26cap%3d1&IsFromSearch=1

 

EDIT! Just a further question! I have an image here of my twin boys when they were babies. Do they need a model release for my sons?

Edited by Gareth Williams

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Yes, and yes......

I'll amend them now ASAP!!

 

What about my sons?

 

EDIT: Both now amended so it reflects the amount of people in the image and no model release. I see the box that says, royalties free, rights managed etc gets greys out and defaults to rights managed when you don't have a model release. Daft question but are they still for sale and available to buy now then or by not having a model release they cannot be sold? In which case all street photography is a no go then?!

Edited by Gareth Williams

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Yes, and yes......

I'll amend them now ASAP!!

 

What about my sons?

 

EDIT: Both now amended so it reflects the amount of people in the image and no model release. I see the box that says, royalties free, rights managed etc gets greys out and defaults to rights managed when you don't have a model release. Daft question but are they still for sale and available to buy now then or by not having a model release they cannot be sold? In which case all street photography is a no go then?!

 

 

They should be available for sale soon and are fine for editorial use as long as you have indicated the number of people in the images and that you don't have model releases. Technically speaking, releases are only necessary for commercial use.

Edited by John Mitchell

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Two points:

 

You really need far more descriptive info in your captions

 

Why black and white?

 

km

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The "yes and yes" covered the first two images and your sons. Should perhaps have been yes, yes, and yes :)

 

And further to Redsnappers comments - your keywording is too scanty....

Edited by Niels Quist

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I agree, my key words are terrible! I honestly don't know what to put in them though! Is there an area on here with ideas or maybe a few examples ?

 

All help is greatfully received :)

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I agree, my key words are terrible! I honestly don't know what to put in them though! Is there an area on here with ideas or maybe a few examples ?

 

All help is greatfully received :)

 

http://discussion.alamy.com/index.php?/topic/2626-best-keywording-tutorial/

 

 

And you moan.   :)    Just think of us non-native speakers of English. It will be a piece of cake for you after the first couple, but it is considered real work.

Edited by Niels Quist

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Don't minors need a release from both parents (if possible)? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

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Don't minors need a release from both parents (if possible)? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

 

Never heard of...

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Thanks all!

 

EDIT! Just a further question! I have an image here of my twin boys when they were babies. Do they need a model release for my sons?

You provide them yourself.

I have model releases for myself. I provided them.

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Don't minors need a release from both parents (if possible)? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

 

Probably not for editorial uses. Delicate area these days, though.

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Don't think it is needed from both parents. I have a lot on here, all with only one parent signing.

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Don't think it is needed from both parents. I have a lot on here, all with only one parent signing.

It wasn't "need" if I remember correctly, just preferred under certain circumstances (the face of an advertising campaign perhaps).

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Just one parent required in all my dealings with other agencies, including two rather big ones . . .

 

Have (elsewhere) commercially licensed images of my kids where I signed as both photographer AND parent, and kids' mum signed only as witness.

 

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Laws are different in every country, but in the U.S. only one parent need sign a minor release.

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