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search ranking sales+amount?? location???? this is used in search???

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hi,

 

looking a bit in search.

 

search: "Badalona" and this image ADH8GC do not appears, (image sold for $ 857.19)

in location field Badalona is, so "location" field is not searchable??

(now I put the city name in others fields)

 

another

 

this image A1NE5C is sold 3 times

searching 15 to 25 pages (120 pics per page) I don't find it, so is more deep.

 

so if this image is sold 3 times, all others displayed before are sold 4 or more times?

 

for what reason if a pic is sold don't have a plus for go up in first pages?

 

so a suggestion, if a pic is sold this have a "10 poinds" for to be displayed in first pages in a search, if 2 sales 10 poinds more, if 3 sales 10 poinds more... plus, if a sale is for 1000$ 1000 more poinds, if a sale is for 6$, 6 more poinds and so on. both quantity of sales & price sold are two diferent fields of course.

 

not is this more reasonable?

 

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No, the location field is not searchable any more. Because especially doing a Creative search it threw up all sorts of micro studio shots when clients just looked for a city. It made Creative look silly. Yes the shots were fully released, but there was no city in sight, just a studio.
 
Rank is determined over the whole pseudo, not just an image. However some images that have sold a couple of times get promoted into Creative and will appear before the Relevant aka regular ones. Those can be many pages down for popular searches like London (43,5 pages of Creative) or Barcelona (6,5 pages of Creative)
Rank does take into account all your sales and your Click Through Rate of 300 days prior to the day the current ranking started. And ranking is supposed to take place roughly every 100 days. My feeling is that sales outweigh CTR by a great margin.

 

Alamy has on a couple of occasions said, that they are working more towards a ranking per image. The promoting to Creative is a move in that direction.

All clients that visit Alamy for the first time have their search set as Creative. If they do not choose New or Relevant by hand, it will stay that way. (It's a cookie.)

 

So if your image that sells so well is sitting far behind in a search, it may well be that the others have sold more, or that maybe not these images, but the rest of their images have sold a lot more.

It's also possible that the sales and searches have been for totally different keywords. The other possibility is that your sales were too long ago. Also making only a few sales from a large collection (not your problem) is not very good for your rank. Have a look at the discussions about BHZ on this forum.

Some people have reported here that clients start to use the New search tab more and more, to find newer images. That will throw yours (and mine) way back to the rear.

 

I'm pretty sure the picking of individual images to be included in Creative works more or less like you propose.

 

wim

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Hello Gabriel.

 

I think you'll find individual images are not ranked, only individual pseudonyms. So the images in front of yours haven't necessarily sold more than yours, but the pseudonym they belong in has a higher Rank than your pseudonym.

 

EDIT: Yeah, what Wim said above also, while I was typing :)

 

dd

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Hello Gabriel.

 

I think you'll find individual images are not ranked, only individual pseudonyms. So the images in front of yours haven't necessarily sold more than yours, but the pseudonym they belong in has a higher Rank than your pseudonym.

 

EDIT: Yeah, what Wim said above also, while I was typing :)

 

dd

 

Ah but yours was a bit more to the point.

 

wim

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ok, but I think this policy is VERY BAD. So If I have 2 or 3 pics sell for 900$ and another person have 100 sales for 10$ the pics of the "cheap guy" come before in search results??? and if a pic is sell many times for what reason the pic is send to hell ranking?

 

if I are a buyer and see 1 pic in a "900$" display and wow I want this pic and search a bit in alamy but after 20 pages I don't find the image... the buyer go away tired!!!??? in the end no money for the phot. no money for alamy.

 

if alamy have staff of web devoloping/programmers this rank for image is very easy to implement.

 

in resume, no matter if a pic is shot by cartier-breson or by a totally unknown guy with a obscure pseudo. MONEY TALKS!!! :)

 

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If I was a picture buyer, personally, if there was a choice, I would prefer to licence a photo that had not been used before. originality would be key. Also if a photo sold for $900 it was bought for a specific purpose, probably advertising at that price. A photo that is suitable for a particular product advertising may not be suitable for another.

It could also work against you. If buyers were aware that the top ranked photos were repeat sellers that could put them off for reasons I mentioned above

Just my opinion

Kevin

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o well, another good option in advanced search, an option box for pics previously sold and another for pics never sold.

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+1

 

can think of 20 more option boxes or much better: sliders in advanced search.

 

How about a slider for:

 

least sold - most sold

least viewed - most viewed

least zoomed - most zoomed

least popular - most popular

 

a slider for

fuzzy - exact search

UK English - US English

 

agencies - individual contributors

RF - RM

 

newly added
recently shot
invert individual photographer's submissions

(best first vs best last while keeping photographers' ranking)
randomizer - totally random (like random player - each click different)

 

A search option for colors

for copyspace

for similar style images

 

How about a ratings system:

editor's pick
viewer's pick
buyer's pick (buyers have also considered these)

rated by registered viewers
rated by visitors
rated by the photographer
rated by this client on a former occasion

 

a complaints button

a button to flag for wrong or missing keywords

 

If I think for ten minutes I'll have another 10.

A seasoned image buyer will come up with another 10.

If we would look at the best all the competitors have in place, I'm sure we'll find 10 more.

For now my weekend has begun.

 

wim

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+1

 

can think of 20 more option boxes or much better: sliders in advanced search.

 

How about a slider for:

 

least sold - most sold

least viewed - most viewed

least zoomed - most zoomed

least popular - most popular

 

most of this are inpracticable, most irrelevant,  some like the photo.net options for photo "amateurs". I think this is a business and buyer oriented, so put options necessary to facilitate the purchase not for lost time looking, rating... pictures. my 2cents.

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I think you find those options were posted tongue in cheek

Kevin

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I think you find those options were posted tongue in cheek

Kevin

 

. . . ssshhhhhhh . . .

 

dd

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