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I have had no problems either buying or selling on eBay and no probs with PayPal (other than the usual scams which arrive in my email inbox occasionally which I just forward to spoof@paypal.com).  I have never sold anything on Craig's List but a few months back, someone on Craig's List had put my website to back up their claim that the person was indeed a photographer who was looking for an assistant (according to the ad).  I received a couple of emails from wary assistants who were just checking the veracity of the ad.  I reported  it to Craig's List and they removed the phony ad immediately.   To this day, I am not sure why the scammer placed the ad and what the intent was.

 

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Sheila

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Not once. Living in a somewhat remote part of Thailand I often need to resort to eBay for equipment, and particularly obsolete items. I've been sourcing goods via them for some 8 years now and not once has there been a problem. It's actually (for me at least) quicker and more cost effective than buying from Thai dealers. PayPal is fine also.

 

Checking the feedback history is essential, as is the old adage "if it's too good to be true, it usually is"

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Ed, I sold all my 5D kit last year on Craig's List with no problems, to finance all my new Sony and Canon gear. A few email exchanges will tell you whether a responder is just a general bottom-feeder or someone actually wanting your photo equipment.

 

My rules were:  local only; cash only; meet in a public place. I did recruit one of my sons to be around for my first deal, but after that I got used to the idea of trading something in public for hundreds of dollars in cash. Met a lot of nice people who are into photography. I suppose you could always meet outside your bank.

 

On Craig's List I got nearly twice what KEH/B&H/Adorama offered me.

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If your buying or selling online, from a person or from a questionable website, safest way is to use Paypal. You will get seller and buyer protection if you use them. If your selling just make sure you, use a signed shipping delivery tracking service.

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I've bought stuff on eBay and Amazon (small items only) and have never been scammed.

 

Actually, I've been quite impressed by how quickly things get to Vancouver, even from China, and by how well packed they usually are.

 

I've sold lots of old camera equipment -- some of which I now wish I had held onto -- on Craigslist without any problems. Never had any issues with PayPal either.

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I've done over 6000 Paypal transactions since they started.Ebay,copyright retroactive license fee payments,licensing payments,no problems.

Very very important...A LOT of scam emails pretending they are from Paypal trying to get you to click on a link saying you have a problem with your account.

DO NOT CLICK THOSE LINKS... Should you get a suspect email send to: spoof@paypal.com

 

Use a difficult password and change frequently. You should do that for email and all financial sites anyway.

 

Other than that,all is good.

 

I recently opened a similar account with Flint in case a client hates Paypal or I should ever have a problem with Paypal.

 

L

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Never accept any payment but  CASH(no bills over $10s) in person from craigslist. HUGE amount of scams there. I've sold tons of things there. I'm in a highrise with a lot of security so I was meeting them in the hall or lobby. Our condo board has nixed any selling unless people come inside our units which I will not do unless I'm selling a desktop computer and I've checked out the buyer as best I could.

 

People scam on craigs by wanting to send a check and making it over the amount. The check will not clear your bank and you will be out the money and your merchandise.Also,if someone

 

paid you by Paypal for a craigs item,you have no proof they picked it up and they could do a charge back and debit your account.

 

CASH ONLY,pick up only and meet in a busy public place. 

 

L

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No problems here, but I've only sold surplus kit up to about £200, not big-ticket stuff because I've never owned any!

ebay rules in the UK require you to accept Paypal, so you have to use tracked post, which is fairly efficient here, and the cost of insurance just goes onto the shipping fee, remembering to add on the commission.

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I've suffered from timewasters a couple of times on eBay. They bid for items, make sure they get the winning bid, and then disappear without paying. They usually have either no feedback or they've recently changed their username so I now try to spot such people bidding in the hope that I can refuse their bids before it's too late.

 

It hasn't cost me any loss but it's extremely irritating because eBay won't cancel an unpaid transaction for a period of time (I think from memory it's 14 days but I could be wrong) even though it's perfecty obvious to me that it's a scam. By the time the transaction is voided it's usually too late to make a second-chance offer to other bidders as they will have  bought elsewhere. However, the good news for me personally is that on both occasions the subsequent re-auction fetched a higher price than the original auction would have done.

 

Alan

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Ditto.

You can cancel the transaction mutually but in my case I waited 7 days so the non-payer would get a black mark on their account. I got a higher price second time around, too.

Of course if you're sure it's a scam you can just start a fresh listing.

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I've suffered from timewasters a couple of times on eBay. They bid for items, make sure they get the winning bid, and then disappear without paying. They usually have either no feedback or they've recently changed their username so I now try to spot such people bidding in the hope that I can refuse their bids before it's too late.

 

It hasn't cost me any loss but it's extremely irritating because eBay won't cancel an unpaid transaction for a period of time (I think from memory it's 14 days but I could be wrong) even though it's perfecty obvious to me that it's a scam. By the time the transaction is voided it's usually too late to make a second-chance offer to other bidders as they will have  bought elsewhere. However, the good news for me personally is that on both occasions the subsequent re-auction fetched a higher price than the original auction would have done.

 

Alan

I've sold tens of thousands of dollars of equipment and everything else on ebay and only years ago did I have vanishing bidders.Ebay has really tightened up so have not had that happen in at least 12 years. For my equipment I'm selling, I state in my preferences no recent bad feedback. In my description I insist on no recent negative feedback and must have score of 25 or more or I will cancel their bid.     L

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I have bought and sold on Ebay without any hassles except one. I have bought bits and pieces of photo equipment which have all been absolutely as advertised and fine. I also sold my late Mother's collection of bone china which she loved but I didn't want. It went in various lots to collectors all over the world and all the buyers were delighted and I got rave reviews!

 

My one glitch was when I bought an Epson R2880 A3+ printer advertised as 'like new and unused'. It arrived very badly packed and wrecked. The seller refused all liability and accused me of lying etc. etc. I communicated with him for a while and he became abusive. I then went through Ebay's customer service centre and they were fantastic. They had obviously been monitoring the communications between me and the seller, plus my pictures of the bad packing etc. I had my money back almost instantly after I sent the printer back - with postage pre-paid by Ebay. 

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Of course if you're sure it's a scam you can just start a fresh listing.

 

True, and I did consider it. But what I really wanted to do was offer it immediately to the next highest bidder in order to get the stuff sold quickly. Of course, it turned out that that wouldn't have been such a lucrative move!

 

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Yes, I've been scammed on ebay/paypal.  It was about 10 years ago.  I sold CD collectors box to Italy for $800.  The seller claimed he never received it even though I had his signature that he did.  What I didn't have was a tracking number as the post office here in the US told me that they have no way of tracking packages outside of US (I don't believe that's true, I don't remember what the deal was back then).  Even though I his the delivery signature, customs number etc. he claimed his money back from PayPal and PayPal gave it to him.  They didn't care that I had his delivery confirmation signature, they wanted a tracking number and I didn't have it.  I no longer use PayPal and never never never never ship without a tracking number.  I also insured the item but I didn't recover any money because there was a signature that the item was delivered.  PayPal didn't care about any of that info.  

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Use ebay, paypal, amazon no probs. never crags list. You just have to be careful.

 

Allan

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I have bought a lot on both eBay and Amazon and have only had one scam. My wife bought a Chanel watch which turned out to be a fake. I finally recovered 50% after involving the police etc.

 

I also had an incident with a seller wanting to be paid through Western Union. I declined and passed the details to the police who confirmed that this was a scam.

 

That said have only had very good experiences otherwise.

 

With regard to the PayPal emails they drive me mad. I delete them all.

 

dov

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Yes, but it related/resulted from a previous hack,  Someone purchased "electronic vouchers" from EBay, using my PayPal account, via my Visa Card. After a lot of email correspondence and phone calls, I eventually managed to get my money back  from the bank/Card Company, with the EBay sellers becoming the losers.  I also had a potential scammer on Amazon who wanted to be paid for an item, by  bank transfer (outside the normal Amazon payment procedure). But I reported  them to Amazon and I did not complete the purchase. So the scam did not work.

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Not much experience here with eBay, but I have sold locally here on Craigslist.  You do get some looneys answering ads, but I can weed them out pretty quickly.  I've sold some expensive lenses. I will not mail anything, all sales have to be direct with cash in my hand.   Met one guy in the WalMart lobby while my husband lurked 15 feet away.  

 

We've sold a smoker, expensive tools like band saws and similar, bedding, furniture and jewelry making tools and beads. And a computer.  All have been good, with honest people understanding the cash only requirement.  

 

Anything where someone has to come to our home, like the computer and smoker, band saw and such, I always make sure my husband is home.  Not to say a crew of baddies couldn't overwhelm two people, but so far so good.

 

As far as cameras, I've always had Nikon, so I list them on the Nikonians website and sell, mail, collect through Paypal. 

 

Betty

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A lot of great information, people.

 

It's wonderful to see things working so well in far-off Thailand. I guess if I'd only heard from Lastrega and Linda I'd have enough solid info . . . but again, thanks to all.

 

I have bought items on eBay myself, but I've never sold anything, and the details of selling are very different. On principle, I try not to see anecdotes as rules to follow. (We all have been guilty of using anecdotes to find a path for selecting subject matter when shooting stock.) Linda seems to have bought and sold more gear than Bloomingdales sell clothing. And meeting someone in shot-'m-up modern Chicago takes guts. (I sold my handgun to the police last year.)

 

I won't be selling to anyone outside the USA and perhaps Canada. If I still lived in Europe, I would probably have to sell beyond the border, but sending costly items across the seas seems impractical on so many levels. 

 

Thank you again, everyone.  (Please read my blog.) 

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