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Jeff, no, I think they would give artistic license. There's quite a few images like that up. You could try 'hiding' it in a large submission too... 😉

 

One of mine:

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Jeff, there seem to be lots of panned shots with motion blur on Alamy (e.g. do searches on 'motorbike' and 'motion blur'). Seeing what's there now may give an idea of what has got through QC before (granted that not all may have been inspected by QC). I was with another stock agency previously who were strict about it and one contributor was disappointed their panned image was rejected. But Alamy seem to have lots of them. I have a panned photo of an ibis landing at a lake which I have hesitated to upload in case it is deemed SOLD. But doing as Steve suggests and putting it in a large batch and hoping for the best may be the way to go.

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I don't have many panning shots, but I always make sure that there is a sharp spot somewhere on the main subject (even an elbow will do). Never had one fail QC. Not sure if I'd be brave enough to upload a totally blurred panned image, though. Rumour has it that QC inspectors don't read captions and tags.

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That may well be true, John. But the tag may help buyers. When there's a logic to the blur, QC its not likely to fail the image. 

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I think what Alamy has said is that the blur should look intentional so, for instance, if someone buys it they are not surprised that they have a blurry image.

 

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I've always considered panning and motion blur to be two different animals. In the former, the background is blurred, and the moving main subject, which is being tracked, is at least partially in focus. While in the latter, the main subject, which isn't being tracked, is blurred and the background is in focus.

 

I'd say this image, which I shot a long time ago with a manual focus camera, is an example of panning -- i.e. the girl is partially in focus, and the background is blurry (caused by the movement of the camera, not the girl).

 

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I have a few pan blurred photos on Alamy.  Only one was rejected by QC for not having any spot that was sharp and they were correct, I should not have uploaded it.

 

This one below is of an Indy car that takes tourists on rides, normal Indy race cars don't have two seats.  I rode in this one and quite a thrill to go 185 MPH!

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On 31/08/2024 at 04:31, Steve F said:

...try 'hiding' it in a large submission too... 😉

Thanks for all responses;
have tagged as advised;
reports indicate it could go either way
am of opinion one or more within QC
team are judging harsher than others…

since each of me submissions typically
100+ images, all my images are “hiding”
behind (99) other images…

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I appreciate that a consensus has been reached in this thread but if the subject is blurred it's not really a panning shot, it's an action shot.

If the subject is sharp It's a panning shot.

 

 

Having not reall adding anything to the proceedings I'll go now...

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22 minutes ago, Mr Standfast said:

I appreciate that a consensus has been reached in this thread but if the subject is blurred it's not really a panning shot, it's an action shot.

If the subject is sharp It's a panning shot.

 

 

Having not reall adding anything to the proceedings I'll go now...

 

Good point Mr Standfast! I've had a look at images under "motion blur" on Alamy in which the subject is indeed sharp, so I imagine the two are often used interchangeably or keyworded as such to cover all bases.

 

My first camera, a Nikon D3000, had a CCD sensor. I found panned images as well as motion blur images came out very differently than they have on subsequent cameras with CMOS sensors. I really missed the look from the CCD. I read somewhere that it is to do with the way the image lays down on the CCD sensor at the time of capture, creating an effect more similar to a panned shot from a film camera.

 

Sorry, that probably doesn't add to the proceedings either! Just trivia that I find interesting. I'll go now too...

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32 minutes ago, Mr Standfast said:

Having not reall(y) adding anything to the proceedings I'll go now...

But you have contributed.
Specifically British humour.**
More specifically, deadpan self-deprecation.
 
**and allowed a Yank to properly employ "humour" instead of humor...
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3 hours ago, Mr Standfast said:

I appreciate that a consensus has been reached in this thread but if the subject is blurred it's not really a panning shot, it's an action shot.

If the subject is sharp It's a panning shot.

 

 

Having not reallY adding anything to the proceedings I'll go now...

 

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Alamy's clarification:

 

https://www.alamy.com/blog/your-most-asked-alamy-quality-control-questions?_gl=1*1jnl8zw*_gcl_aw*R0NMLjE3MjUyODUzNzIuRUFJYUlRb2JDaE1JMXVUUTNiU2tpQU1WTlhKQkFoMUdCVE90RUFBWUFTQUFFZ0xzVGZEX0J3RQ..*_gcl_au*MjE5MTY5NDQxLjE3MjMxMTA1NjY.*_ga*MTc3MDM3NDI1NC4xNzIzMTEwNTY2*_ga_M5V9H9N7G8*MTcyNTM1MjMzNi43MS4xLjE3MjUzNTc1OTEuMC4wLjA.

 

Do you accept imagery that shows movement or artistic techniques?

There seems to be some myth that we don’t accept images that show movement, this is of course untrue and we love your artistic imagery! What we can tell is the difference between artistic intent and poor photography. So, if you want to send us images that have movement you need to make sure that there is enough movement so that this looks like it was intended, or there is at least one area which has a defined focus point. With artistic imagery as long as your image doesn’t show corruption or unsightly artifacts when checked at 100%, that’s fine.

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8 minutes ago, Steve F said:

Alamy's clarification:

 

 

Never seen that page even though it's been there 9 years, this part might also be a handy reference:
 

I have a 10 megapixel (MP) DSLR, I’d like to upload my work but it seems like they don’t meet your size requirements of 17MB. What can I do?

 

When we refer to 17 megabytes (MB) this is the uncompressed (opened) file size. A DSLR with more than 6MP will have a file size of over 17MB. You can see this by opening your image in a program like Adobe Photoshop then opening the image size properties. As a general rule of thumb if you have a 6MP+ DSLR camera, it should produce images of a sufficient size.

 

 

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