Thousands of pictures - Changed to - Sell for editorial only

[Kent Johnson]

Thousands of my pictures  have been changed to - Sell for editorial only - this was not done by me. A few weeks ago or a bit longer I received an Alamy email about a shot of the Moulin Rouge in Paris that needed to be marked as Editorial Only, and that Alamy had done that for me... I assumed hundreds of photographers had received the same email - Now I find nearly every picture has been set to Editorial Only - with or without property or model releases - What is going on!!!

Edited August 25 by Kent Johnson
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[Michael Ventura]

I have not received any email, yet, about changing my photos to Editorial Only.

[Allan Bell]

Read this thread.   

 

 

Allan

 

[Harry Harrison]

It's an astonishing way to go about things, the time to inform the bulk of your contributors is surely before the changes are actually implemented.

 

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

I know how to call up all of me images;

how do I call up me "editorial only" images?

please somebody anybody if you would would you please...

when clicking on "filters" all choices are grayed out...

Edited August 25 by Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg

[John Mitchell]

4 hours ago, Kent Johnson said:

Thousands of my pictures  have been hanged to - Sell for editorial only - this was not done by me. A few weeks ago or a bit longer I received an Alamy email about a shot of the Moulin Rouge in Paris that needed to be marked as Editorial Only, and that Alamy had done that for me... I assumed hundreds of photographers had received the same email - Now I find nearly every picture has been set to Editorial Only - with or without property or model releases - What is going on!!!

 

Very strange. It's tough to understand why so many of your images have been changed to editorial use only since they don't appear to contain people or "property". However, Alamy has never really explained adequately what it means by "property". None of mine appear to have been changed yet. I haven't received any emails either.

 

 

 

Edited August 25 by John Mitchell

[Harry Harrison]

5 hours ago, Kent Johnson said:

Thousands of my pictures  have been hanged to - Sell for editorial only - this was not done by me.

Did they have any kind of restriction, "Not for Personal Use" for example. Alternatively might this apply:

 

"Unfortunately this doesn't fix the issue as several contributors have images that are ok for commercial use, but haven't filled in the PR and MR section either way. Some also have a mix of commercial and editorial uses in different combination and we need to be sure that there isn't some other reason that they have wanted to license for Advertising, but not Consumer Goods for example, so we need to check this."

 

Actually some of the assertions that Alamy gave in that thread do not seem to have come to pass.

Edited August 25 by Harry Harrison

[M.Chapman]

Presumably, if the Optional section entries for people and property have not been filled in, those images are converted to "Editorial only".

 

Mark

[John Mitchell]

I hope Kent doesn't mind my referring to his image, but why would images like this one (2XE0429) have to be marked as for editorial use only? Where is the "property"? I'm confused. 😕

 

 

 

 

Edited August 25 by John Mitchell

[John Mitchell]

Just now, M.Chapman said:

Presumably, if the Optional section entries for people and property have not been filled in, those images are converted to "Editorial only".

 

Mark

 

That could be the case by the looks of things.

[Harry Harrison]

29 minutes ago, M.Chapman said:

Presumably, if the Optional section entries for people and property have not been filled in, those images are converted to "Editorial only".

Beginning to look like that. There never was a way for contributors to find that type of image, not that I'm aware of anyway, I kept asking for one. Now I suppose the 'Restricted' filter in AIM will bring them all up.

[MB Photography]

I have had a large number of my images converted to Editorial Use. I have a lot of landscapes with no property or people and all the other optional fields were set. The only restriction I had was to prevent ‘Personal Use’.

 

I asked Alamy to remove the Personal Use restriction from all of my images as it would cause the Editorial Use transition according to their new licence rules. This does not seem to have happened, so it’s now a complete mess.

[geogphotos]

How can you find out if your images have been changed to Editorial Only?

[John Mitchell]

37 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

How can you find out if your images have been changed to Editorial Only?

 

There doesn't seem to be an appropriate filter in AIM, so I guess you'll have to check your images "manually". That's what I've been doing. If you haven't completed the 'optional" page, then I imagine that all of your images will be changed. But who knows...

[Kent Johnson]

Thanks for the responses, and  Allan Bell for the useful link above - I fill out property and people Licensing information on ALL my pictures - I also Do Not Allow Personal Use - because I might want to exhibit or edition some pictures (not all, not by a long shot) in the future. So that has been a kind of future-insurance policy, which is important to me. From what I am reading it seems Alamy has taken the No Personal Use button to mean Editorial Only - I wonder if I go through changing all my pictures back to what they Should Be - if they will just change back at the next server update? I suppose I need to email Alamy to find out. Right now this looks like a deal breaker for me; the playing field in now no longer recognisable as stock, maybe a poster factory?  I'm reading this now - https://www.alamy.com/blog/alamys-new-licensing-model

 

Thanks everyone for your input.

[Kent Johnson]

3 hours ago, M.Chapman said:

Presumably, if the Optional section entries for people and property have not been filled in, those images are converted to "Editorial only".

 

Mark

I had those areas filled in - I fill in everything until the line bar green!

[KellyC]

I just spent the last few weeks removing the 'no personal use' from a good number of my images. Today I see that a great many of those images are listed as Editorial Use Only, despite having no people or property in them (fields I do fill out). Now I have to go back though all my images (thankfully a smaller portfolio than many of you) and recheck everything. Wondering why I bother anymore as my sales have tanked since November.

[Kent Johnson]

52 minutes ago, KellyC said:

I just spent the last few weeks removing the 'no personal use' from a good number of my images. Today I see that a great many of those images are listed as Editorial Use Only, despite having no people or property in them (fields I do fill out). Now I have to go back though all my images (thankfully a smaller portfolio than many of you) and recheck everything. Wondering why I bother anymore as my sales have tanked since November.

I've just seen that the 'No Personal Use' (I used that on all my pictures) box has been removed - it's clearly been the 'tool' that was used to convert images to editorial only - a huge assumption on the Alamy teams behalf. I feel for you having already been proactive for no result.

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

3 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

There doesn't seem to be an appropriate filter in AIM

Yes there is;

AIM > Filters > Attribues > Restricted images

e.g., I now have 153,116 total images

1,808 images show when me Restricted images box checked

I only looked first image, it is specifically Editorial only

Over years I’ve designated some museum images Editorial only

1,808 / 153,116 seems the likely number…

[gvallee]

3 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

Yes there is;

AIM > Filters > Attribues > Restricted images

e.g., I now have 153,116 total images

1,808 images show when me Restricted images box checked

I only looked first image, it is specifically Editorial only

Over years I’ve designated some museum images Editorial only

1,808 / 153,116 seems the likely number…

 

I have also ticked 'Editorial Only' for my artwork pics but I do not have the 'Restricted Images' option you see under Attributes. Strange.

 

Edit: Restricted Images has just be rolled out for me along with changes.

Edited August 26 by gvallee

[Kent Johnson]

1 hour ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

Yes there is;

AIM > Filters > Attribues > Restricted images

e.g., I now have 153,116 total images

1,808 images show when me Restricted images box checked

I only looked first image, it is specifically Editorial only

Over years I’ve designated some museum images Editorial only

1,808 / 153,116 seems the likely number…

Technically unless you have both property releases and model releases, I suspect the vast majority of your images (which like me, I can see you have said have, no model release / no property release) should be set to Editorial Only - I think this is where Alamy are going as it is the safest for them legally. 

[Kent Johnson]

6 hours ago, geogphotos said:

How can you find out if your images have been changed to Editorial Only?

 

You need to go to the Optional Tab in the Image Manager, there is a check box, it is the second last item.

[John Mitchell]

3 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

Yes there is;

AIM > Filters > Attribues > Restricted images

e.g., I now have 153,116 total images

1,808 images show when me Restricted images box checked

I only looked first image, it is specifically Editorial only

Over years I’ve designated some museum images Editorial only

1,808 / 153,116 seems the likely number…

 

You're right. The Restricted images filter does bring up editorial only. Thanks.

[gvallee]

16 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

 

You're right. The Restricted images filter does bring up editorial only. Thanks.

 

The Restricted Images filter has finally just appeared. Perhaps time difference with Australia?

 

Edited August 26 by gvallee

[John Mitchell]

12 minutes ago, gvallee said:

 

The Restricted Images filter has finally just appeared. Perhaps time difference with Australia?

 

 

I saw the restricted filter earlier but didn't try it. Thought it would bring up only images with specific restrictions, not the general "editorial use only" ones. I still don't see any changes made by Alamy, though. Have started making a preemptive strike on some images that I probably should have marked for editorial. Otherwise shall wait and see what happens.