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4 hours ago, Alexander Hog said:

I am one of those really low performers which I feel I've failed and secondly no one likes what I've put up Only guessing There wouldn't be much lost if I completely quit and closed the  Account  No loss to Alamy at all 

Hang in there - keep uploading and whilst I cannot see your photos ask yourself will this sell - is it keyworded adequately? (and think beyond the norm) 

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5 hours ago, Alexander Hog said:

I am one of those really low performers which I feel I've failed and secondly no one likes what I've put up Only guessing There wouldn't be much lost if I completely quit and closed the  Account  No loss to Alamy at all 

 

I quit once and came back.  My portfolio got to around 1100 photos the first round before I had somewhat regular sales.  

 

One thing to do is go through what you do have up and do a purge of things you're less sure of now than you were, and then just leave things up unless Alamy decides to purge small portfolios that don't perform.  The work is already done.   If you pull your account, it won't ever make you anything.  Editing and reprocessing your work can be useful.  Lightroom Classic has some new tools, and Photoshop can do things Lightroom Classic can't.  DXO PhotoLab 5 also can be useful.  Making things lighter, adding more contrast and clarity with some backing off from too obvious, and judicious cropping might be useful. The challenge now is photos with releases for people and obvious property that could be used in advertising. 

 

If just being here makes you anxious and unhappy, that's another thing.  

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48 minutes ago, ColdCoffee said:

Off topic .. but why can't we see each others photos anymore?

 

Broken links -- the forum is hosted by forum hosting company but needs to get the links from Alamy's database.  May not be purely an Alamy error though it's showing up as an internal server error. "It means that the server encountered an unexpected condition that prevented it from fulfilling the request. This error is usually returned by the server when no other error code is suitable."  So, could be that the forum server doesn't know where to find the link, can't find the link now since something has been done to Alamy's database so the link doesn't point to the right location, or that location doesn't exist.   Information here:   https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/http-500-internal-server-error.   The link for the various blue numbers doesn't return anything for site checking to see if a site is down for you or for everyone. 

 

Since 500 is a rather generic error and the connection between the forum server(s) and Alamy's server(s) has to be working, it could be a problem on either end.  We connect directly to Alamy's servers for Measures and such, but not directly to Alamy for the forums. 

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One check doesn't work for the url from the blue number
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Checking my measures from yesterday I see against all my 4 pseudonyms that ALL views are for 100 only. Is this a glitch or are the buyers really only checking the first page? 

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5 minutes ago, ReeRay said:

Checking my measures from yesterday I see against all my 4 pseudonyms that ALL views are for 100 only. Is this a glitch or are the buyers really only checking the first page? 

 we have no idea and Alamy has not addressed any of the data issues so far.  

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27 minutes ago, meanderingemu said:

 we have no idea and Alamy has not addressed any of the data issues so far.  

What also amazes and confuses me is that I've never had so many views, across all pseudonyms, from page 1.

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1 hour ago, ReeRay said:

Checking my measures from yesterday I see against all my 4 pseudonyms that ALL views are for 100 only. Is this a glitch or are the buyers really only checking the first page? 

 

51 minutes ago, ReeRay said:

What also amazes and confuses me is that I've never had so many views, across all pseudonyms, from page 1.

I'm seeing lots of repeated entries of 100 views. It's as if viewing the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. pages generates a new record of 100 views. But sometimes it works (some, but not many, searches show over 100 views).

 

Mark

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8 minutes ago, M.Chapman said:

 

I'm seeing lots of repeated entries of 100 views. It's as if viewing the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. pages generates a new record of 100 views. But sometimes it works (some, but not many, searches show over 100 views).

 

Mark

Yes, same here. Very strange behaviour

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I had 118 different search terms viewed yesterday (378 views) - and they were all LU.

 

That can't be right.

 

John.

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All but one of my 41 searches today are LU.

 

Agreed - can't be right. So Measures isn't completely fixed.

 

Wish I could get rid of more false hits but I did fix/eliminate some keywords. When I look at the pix I uploaded back in 2008, my keywording was atrocious - I threw in everything but the kitchen sink - these days I'm much sparer. I also need to eliminate EU since Scotland is no longer part of it but all those pix (from a pre-stock, pre-pro photography trip) have oodles of keywords and lots of repeats thanks to the transfer from the old system. I'd love to visit during the Fringe Festival again - what a great city and a fun time to be there!

 

 

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20 hours ago, Rebecca Ore said:

 

Broken links -- the forum is hosted by forum hosting company but needs to get the links from Alamy's database.  May not be purely an Alamy error though it's showing up as an internal server error. "It means that the server encountered an unexpected condition that prevented it from fulfilling the request. This error is usually returned by the server when no other error code is suitable."  So, could be that the forum server doesn't know where to find the link, can't find the link now since something has been done to Alamy's database so the link doesn't point to the right location, or that location doesn't exist.   Information here:   https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/http-500-internal-server-error.   The link for the various blue numbers doesn't return anything for site checking to see if a site is down for you or for everyone. 

 

Since 500 is a rather generic error and the connection between the forum server(s) and Alamy's server(s) has to be working, it could be a problem on either end.  We connect directly to Alamy's servers for Measures and such, but not directly to Alamy for the forums. 

Thanks.

 

I wonder if Alamy is planning to fix this ...

 

I am also seeing mostly LU searches and just 100 ... there are few "normal" searches

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27 minutes ago, ColdCoffee said:

I wonder if Alamy is planning to fix this ...

 

I am also seeing mostly LU searches and just 100 ... there are few "normal" searches

I have E-mailed Alamy and awaiting further reply

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Looking at my views since 1st July:

x2 had 5,695 and 1.070 views respectively.

x22 views were over 100.

After that, it's mostly 100 views.

 

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12 hours ago, Alexander Hog said:

I have E-mailed Alamy and awaiting further reply

4 days since I mailed them about this and NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING, NOT A PEEP!!!

Disappointed, again.

 

Phil

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6 hours ago, gvallee said:

Looking at my views since 1st July:

x2 had 5,695 and 1.070 views respectively.

x22 views were over 100.

After that, it's mostly 100 views.

 

 

Check some of the search terms with AoA and see if there really were only 100 views for that term on that day.

In my case sometimes there were, sometimes there were more and those just not got reported in my own views.

No chance of seeing the LU filter in AoA of course.

What I do see is that many searches are repeated. My guess is that's because so many images are unresponsive (not clickable) at first try. Some even after repeated refreshes.

Anyways our views get inflated by all this. By how much?

One theory is that each page gets it's own 100 views reported.

The other thing to look at is how many results there are. Repeat the same search for yourself from the different entry points on Alamy (like the front page or from a previous search) and see how many result you get.

In my case the client had searched over and over for something solar panels (not the exact search term) and got different numbers each time so started adding keywords and still getting different and sometimes very few images. It clearly was a client with some patience, trying all switches and handles on the panel.

 

I think clients have no idea how it all works. Just like us.

 

As I have said so many times before: You do Not Teach the Client. The Client Teaches You.

I know that's a very un-european mindset. Maybe the British are more European and less American than they like to admit. 😁

 

wim

 

edit: added on that day for clarification.

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7 hours ago, Phil Crean said:

4 days since I mailed them about this and NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING, NOT A PEEP!!!

Disappointed, again.

I got one E-mail saying thanks for flagging this about all the things in measures and would look further into it but had no further reply 

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On 07/07/2022 at 07:45, ReeRay said:

Checking my measures from yesterday I see against all my 4 pseudonyms that ALL views are for 100 only. Is this a glitch or are the buyers really only checking the first page? 

 

I see the same thing - 53 views all total 100 or 125 views, all are LU - and even weirder, when I try to replicate a bunch of very similar/nearly identical searches, none of my photos show up on the first page. 

 

Additionally, for some searches, my only photos that showed up are from batches where others have sold. The ones showing up are not my best. When I have some time, I think I'm going to go through and cull my portfolio - although I'm hesitant because you never know what an editor will chose, I've had images I almost didn't send to magazine editors (assignments) end up on magazine covers or on half page at the top of an article, where my first choices weren't even used. Hard to edit your own work, at least for me. 

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7 hours ago, Marianne said:

 

I see the same thing - 53 views all total 100 or 125 views, all are LU - and even weirder, when I try to replicate a bunch of very similar/nearly identical searches, none of my photos show up on the first page. 

 

Additionally, for some searches, my only photos that showed up are from batches where others have sold. The ones showing up are not my best. When I have some time, I think I'm going to go through and cull my portfolio - although I'm hesitant because you never know what an editor will chose, I've had images I almost didn't send to magazine editors (assignments) end up on magazine covers or on half page at the top of an article, where my first choices weren't even used. Hard to edit your own work, at least for me. 

 

It is well and truly screwed again. A few days back I did see all searches suffixed with (LU), limited use. Now only around 20%. I never used to see (LU) in search terms.

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10 hours ago, wiskerke said:

 

Check some of the search terms with AoA and see if there really were only 100 views for that term on that day.

In my case sometimes there were, sometimes there were more and those just not got reported in my own views.

No chance of seeing the LU filter in AoA of course.

What I do see is that many searches are repeated. My guess is that's because so many images are unresponsive (not clickable) at first try. Some even after repeated refreshes.

Anyways our views get inflated by all this. By how much?

One theory is that each page gets it's own 100 views reported.

The other thing to look at is how many results there are. Repeat the same search for yourself from the different entry points on Alamy (like the front page or from a previous search) and see how many result you get.

In my case the client had searched over and over for something solar panels (not the exact search term) and got different numbers each time so started adding keywords and still getting different and sometimes very few images. It clearly was a client with some patience, trying all switches and handles on the panel.

 

I think clients have no idea how it all works. Just like us.

 

As I have said so many times before: You do Not Teach the Client. The Client Teaches You.

I know that's a very un-european mindset. Maybe the British are more European and less American than they like to admit. 😁

 

wim

 

edit: added on that day for clarification.

 

I feel a bit guilty because you put so much effort into this Wim but I have neither time nor patience to try all these combinations. I don't even have a table for my laptop right now! And it's not as though Alamy is responsive to our findings either... 

 

I also see duplicate searches. 

 

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24 minutes ago, gvallee said:

 

I feel a bit guilty because you put so much effort into this Wim but I have neither time nor patience to try all these combinations. I don't even have a table for my laptop right now! And it's not as though Alamy is responsive to our findings either... 

 

I also see duplicate searches. 

 

Haha don't!

I do feel jealous and would not mind having no table for a while. 😎 Probably a lot better for my temper as well.

End of the month we're going to try house sitting for a couple of days. No pets or wallabies but a lawn that has to be mowed once or twice.

 

wim

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